ES Leech language needs to change

So, ES leech description says magic damage. This is not really true as dots from chaos or cold do not count. Well, that's magic damage. What it should really say is magic hits. As it is, hard hitting skill like Vortex and Cold Blast do nothing.

On a bit of an aside, it's a real shame that this mechanic isn't how described, as this league introduced new chaos skills. Bane is a pure dot and the other, Soulrend, has a hit, but its a small amount of damage and would never be useful here. Moreover, since ES leech is around the Witch, it would seem that this would be ideal for an Occultist as it is centered around ES, cold and chaos damage. [buzzer sound] Nope.

So in order to use ES leech, one would need a build that is not chaos based. So this also means Trickster with it's reworked ascension is out too. If one wants to do a decent chaos build, it needs to have a high health pool and have sustain, like a Pathfinder. Otherwise, people will need to keep using health regen with Zealots Oath. It seems that ES builds will still be the old builds which may or may not use Ghost Reaver. The new leach trees may not even be better than Ghost Reaver as they require a lot of points to invest in.

It's too bad that ES leech doen't work how described. It would have opened up a lot of possibilities. Please change the description so we are not wasting hours trying to make a build that won't work.

DoTs from anything dont leech as they dont hit. Things like scorching ray and RF dont leech either.

This is how its always works.

I wont disagree that wording for things in this game could be better. But thats why the wiki for this game is important.

Also where did you read this from? The passive skill tree nodes dont specify hits but all the leech gems do.

Check wiki, only things that hit can leech.

The initial hit from ED can leech, but the DoT cannot.

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gladiatorpie a écrit :

DoTs from anything dont leech as they dont hit. Things like scorching ray and RF dont leech either.

This is how its always works.

I wont disagree that wording for things in this game could be better. But thats why the wiki for this game is important.

Also where did you read this from? The passive skill tree nodes dont specify hits but all the leech gems do.

There was no wiki entry for the new skills or ES leech. While life leech may have not activated on dots, saying Magic Damage in the ES leech description is misleading.

I love it how people are explaining to me the things I acknowledged in my original post.

could you stop saying magic? this is path of exile we don't have magic only spells O.o

It describes the type of damage you gain leech from. At that it is as accurate as it needs to be. The fact that only damage from hits is triggering leech effects is part of the leech mechanic and not part of what kind of damage is eligible for the leech calculations.

Had to check... but there's never a mention of "magic damage" on the gem or the tree. You made that up.

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Spurnshadow a écrit :

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gladiatorpie a écrit :

DoTs from anything dont leech as they dont hit. Things like scorching ray and RF dont leech either.

This is how its always works.

I wont disagree that wording for things in this game could be better. But thats why the wiki for this game is important.

Also where did you read this from? The passive skill tree nodes dont specify hits but all the leech gems do.

There was no wiki entry for the new skills or ES leech. While life leech may have not activated on dots, saying Magic Damage in the ES leech description is misleading.

If you read the entry about leech in the wiki it notes that there are no differences between life leech and energy shield leech except one leeches life and the other ES.

From the wiki:

“Mechanics

All leech mechanics act the same way for life, mana, or in the case of Ghost Reaver, energy shield. Examples in this article will use life, but if the character has equal statistics for a different resource (mana or energy shield), they will apply in the same way.”

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Shagsbeard a écrit :

Had to check... but there's never a mention of "magic damage" on the gem or the tree. You made that up.

He is obviously talking about "spell damage"