[3.5] Occultist Vortex/Cold Snap ES/CI - Deathless and Safe Uber Elder and T16's

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sultangurde a écrit :

Hey, this build rocks :)

I modified it slightly for SSF - aka wearing Heretic's Veil and took nodes for extra curse (Frostbite + Enfeeble).
Also using +110 stats Astramentis to avoid that stupid dexterity on gear (kinda messy when SSF).

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sultangurde a écrit :

Hey, this build rocks :)

I modified it slightly for SSF - aka wearing Heretic's Veil and took nodes for extra curse (Frostbite + Enfeeble).
Also using +110 stats Astramentis to avoid that stupid dexterity on gear (kinda messy when SSF).

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DotsandDashes a écrit :

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sultangurde a écrit :

Hey, this build rocks :)

I modified it slightly for SSF - aka wearing Heretic's Veil and took nodes for extra curse (Frostbite + Enfeeble).
Also using +110 stats Astramentis to avoid that stupid dexterity on gear (kinda messy when SSF).

I'm toying with the idea of something similar. I have the heretics veil but IMO temp chain and enfeeble is the way to go. This build already does tons of damage so you may as well slow enemies and keep them in the radius.

I havnt swapped my passive tree to 2 curse yet. I just gotta decide if it's worth the ES loss to do it, which I think will be like 500-600 ES lost to gain a second curse.



EDIT: just did it to see. i had like 11.3k-11.4k ES and dropped to 10.8k. i dropped a few ES nodes and grabbed whipser of doom.

my heretics veil is set up with temp chain>enfeeble>discipline>enlighten(lvl2). It leaves me with 84 mana. I think it's doable with 84 but a level 3 enlighten would make me feel much more comfortable i think

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sultangurde a écrit :

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DotsandDashes a écrit :

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sultangurde a écrit :

Hey, this build rocks :)

I modified it slightly for SSF - aka wearing Heretic's Veil and took nodes for extra curse (Frostbite + Enfeeble).
Also using +110 stats Astramentis to avoid that stupid dexterity on gear (kinda messy when SSF).

I'm toying with the idea of something similar. I have the heretics veil but IMO temp chain and enfeeble is the way to go. This build already does tons of damage so you may as well slow enemies and keep them in the radius.

I havnt swapped my passive tree to 2 curse yet. I just gotta decide if it's worth the ES loss to do it, which I think will be like 500-600 ES lost to gain a second curse.



EDIT: just did it to see. i had like 11.3k-11.4k ES and dropped to 10.8k. i dropped a few ES nodes and grabbed whipser of doom.

my heretics veil is set up with temp chain>enfeeble>discipline>enlighten(lvl2). It leaves me with 84 mana. I think it's doable with 84 but a level 3 enlighten would make me feel much more comfortable i think

I sit at 111 mana and it is ok, but i got enlighten 3.
Maybe will swap Frosbite/Temporal Chains later to test gameplay difference.

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sultangurde a écrit :

I think i found out the laziest jewel option for me:

Es roll is low ofc, but that phasing is 24/7 on nice density map :)

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sultangurde a écrit :

I think i found out the laziest jewel option for me:

Es roll is low ofc, but that phasing is 24/7 on nice density map :)

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Kaintgitrite a écrit :

I dont know if it's that great for leveling for us since we dont get CI til late but ive been using Light of Lunaris Spirit shield that adds 38-60 cold damage to spells and 479% increased ES. im level 40ish and im assuming it will only start to shine more and more as we unlock more es nodes/es gear. It's a little more on the expensive side "non starter" but if running 5 6 or even 7th char like i am not that big of a deal.

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Idarroc a écrit :

Something I think I should make more clear in the guide... The IDEAL way to use that last bit of mana, in my opinion, rather than a different curse... is to get the Aspect of the Spider affix on your belt or other piece of gear.

Aspect of the spider is so insanely strong, can affect people 3 times, and stacks... What does it do? 30% reduced movement per stack, and 5% increased damage taken per stack.

This is your temp chains on steroids! Huge movespeed reduction, and increased damage taken is one of the best stats in the game, because it is hugely multiplicative, compared to adding more damage with has diminishing returns.

I would HIGHLY HIGHLY HIGHLY recommend getting that if you can afford it, over a second curse.