[3.5] Occultist Vortex/Cold Snap ES/CI - Deathless and Safe Uber Elder and T16's

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pavlosd a écrit :

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SonsOfKorhal a écrit :

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pavlosd a écrit :

With 1025 mana, (Enfeeble - Blasphemy - Vaal Discipline - Enlighten[level 3])
+ aspect of the spider, and this kinda makes me go down to 40 mana honestly.
Any tips on how to get around that?

you can take a look at my tree. I opted for might of the meek, free-ing up some SP, and took sovereignty below ZO. 90% reserved mana, about 120 remaining pool, 67 mana regen per s, running aspect, disc+enlighten3+malevolence, tempchain+blasphemy (w solstice). (sometimes I swap out my temp chain+blasphemy depending on the fights). you could slap on an aul's for malevolence and run hatred too.

I think currency is not an issue for you. There's a lot of dps in the right side of the tree for you to take, some optimization like taking the other/left route to get to fingers of frost instead.

you've allocated like 10 SP more than me in ES haha. I'm already sitting at 10.3k I have no idea how high is your ES. at some point if you find yourself having more than enough ES you could start allocating it to dps on the tree.

I am sitting at 14.4 ES atm with discipline up.
I did change the tree slightly and i have 127 mana free which atm is more than enough due to my boots having 0.6% of the dmg done leeched as mana.
Altho i will take a look at might of the meek, thanks for the info.

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steidlc a écrit :

I think we were talking about different things, which is not hard given the complexity of the game. :-)

You were (I think) saying that Elder will spawn at the tier of maps you are running. More accurate might be that he spawns at the highest tier in the elder influence area at the moment of spawning, which may not be the tier you are currently running. (Which is obvious once you've done the process...)

I was not clear but I was just trying to move elder influence to a t11 map for Zana's quest line. I wasn't actually trying to spawn elder. After watching a couple of videos, and running a bunch of maps, it turned out to be easier to get him to spawn at t10 than to get his influence to t11 for the quest.

Anyway, four guardians are down and I'm going to bed, so elder will have to wait until tomorrow.

Cheers, and thanks for taking the time to respond.

EDIT: Noticed this morning that just taking out the elder guardians in yellow, with eldar himself on a 10 but not yet down, has caused his influence to spread into t11 and 12. Looks like getting to t11 for the Zana quests may require getting him spawned in yellow first. Can someone confirm this is true?

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SonsOfKorhal a écrit :

not sure if you've read my post on 154/153, check it out. I was going for the shapers orbs 11-15 quest + elder orb (for T16 upgrade). spawned the elder on a t10 map, traded 20chis and 5regs (vendor recipe) to retrieve my previous t10->t15 orb, used it on the t10 map that my elder spawned, and tada, my elder "spawned" on a red map. all guardians and elder dropped the fragments.

if you're talking about spawning uber elder, that's what damage incorporated is saying it's also pretty easy. in my post i also explained how i got it to spawn (with 4 elder maps influence)

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judger91 a écrit :

Well, wanted to try a new build, all I can say is that this build is like a paper compared with my Howa MS Jugg. It's strong dmg wise but cm on, currently I got 7k ES and I get rekt by random mobs while mapping... :(

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judger91 a écrit :

Well, wanted to try a new build, all I can say is that this build is like a paper compared with my Howa MS Jugg. It's strong dmg wise but cm on, currently I got 7k ES and I get rekt by random mobs while mapping... :(

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TheSunliight a écrit :

I want to use this build as a first time ssf hc player. I played a few leagues, and I know the basics. Did shaper in SSF SC this league. Now I want to try HC for the first time.
Do you think this build will make a save first time HC SSF build?