The 4 stash tab that free to players get is just not enough anymore.

as the title says. been playing this game for a long time as every exp comes out every new league, items just increase over and over I am poor I can't buy stash tabs my 4 stash tabs cant hold even 5% of the items in the game anymore. trading is hard since if i keep putting good items in my stash at some point space will run out i get another item i can't put it in stash anymore i either have to delete on my old chars and hold it in his inventory or finally break my moral code and just create a dummy account to hold the items for me witch i repeat i never did so far now that i think for new players this would be super hard since they don't know what items are good to pick up and keep :/ my point is 4 stash tab is just impossible to live with it as free to player

I am sorry but if you cannot afford like 5 bucks for a tab you really need to play less games and work more mate.

i completely agree though. should be 6 tabs at least right now. theres just too many added things from back when 4 was appropriate. essense and div cards being the biggest ones that take up so much room.

throw in non stackable fragments on top of that - its just insane.

create multiple characters and store them on those chars. Make a second account and store on that? Cumbersome? Yes, but if you want to go 100% free to play then that's how you deal with it.

Come on. There's no such thing as a free lunch, or a free game. 4 tabs is more than plenty for a new player to decide if they want to "buy" the game (more tabs).

What are you poor af?

His point is that a free game should actually be free. I just th ink their entire approach to inventory AND stash is compeltely misguided. As if the lore of Wraeclast would suddenly crumble into dust if there was an auto-sort button, and multiple inventory bags per character such as with Grim Dawn where you can earn like 6 extra inventory bags by doing quests.

Also, I spent $80 on the game back in beta, and haven't spent any since, for precisely the reason that everything is overpriced in the shop including map tabs and currency tabs and stuff like that. I'm more likely spent money if you actually follow through on your free game premise, out of appreciation. Also, these prices are redic. I don't care what anyone says. It's like you researched a reasonable price for all the skins and then doubled it.

you guys are missing the point ggg will just keep adding more items more currency and my 4 stash tab just can't deal with it anymore this ain't free to play anymore I am forced to buy stash tabs or miss out in trading

I find it odd how people defend the choice to keep the default stash tab number low despite the increase in items required. Things like divination cards and essences alone could fill a normal tab each with maps filling the rest. I didn't even bother to mention currency, shards, or uniques/valuable rares. To say "just keep some mule characters" at this point is so far gone I can't even begin to understand it. Assuming the character limit is 25, 24 of those being mules is equal to about 10 normal stash tabs. Sounds good, right? Sure without specialty tabs 14 total can actually be filled really quick depending on your collecting habits, but it sure as hell beats 4. But wait, we gotta keep an actual tab clean to transfer the items between them so it's actually 13. And now a new league begins, wooo! Whoops, gotta delete that standard character since the other 24 are mules... wait a minute, now you're back to 4 limited tabs for a league that not only has previous items, but may include newer ones. Whelp, time to delete some mules so you can make new ones for the new league. Goodbye items you could have used to play around with in standard. Well, not just the items. I mean if you needed 24 mules in standard, you'll probably need them in the new league as well. More so considering the history of adding new items in new leagues. So there you are, forced to only play either nothing but new leagues with complete wipes save the standard tabs, or play nothing but standard with 13 total tabs you constantly have to switch out to every few maps(be sure to name them well or you might forget what is where!). Heaven forbid you play SSF meaning you have to collect more to complete the same amount of content(as opposed to simply buying the items you need as you need them), that would really push your skills in knowing what to keep to the limits.

I personally have 10 tabs and 1 of every specialty tab, save for quad tab if you count that, but it's no excuse for me to just go "lol what are you, poor?" and have my solution to the last paragraph be buying more tabs. I recall GGG saying early on that keeping the free to play user base happy was better for business as they helped keep the game alive which in turn attracted more people to join including those who are willing to pay. I agree with this sentiment which is also why I have to point out that the limited tabs and forced mules (which lead to earlier noted problems) does NOT make for happy users. I'm sure many people who paid for tabs would get mad at everyone getting maybe a single quad tab but rather than get upset at everyone (including yourself) getting something for free that you payed for, I suggest that if you truly are as invested into PoE and GGG to consider this:
A free player who can go longer without running into such interruptions will be able to play more and keep the user base healthier. Not just in terms of profits for GGG, but in terms of what that means for the greater item pool on the market you yourself no doubt trade in, the healthier collection of knowledge being spread, and the greater diversity of opinion in topics here in the forum which will no doubt be heard by the developers seeking to make a greater game.
Opposite to that; Treating free to play players as trash who must merely adapt to having increasingly worse conditions relative to those who pay helps nobody. The free players quit, the user base dies down, and as will most interest of the game with it. perhaps some would love a small collection of a few thousand players, but would it truly be better for such a community focused game? I'd say no.

Sorry for the long post but this is something I'm pretty passionate about.

I agree with the OP. 4 tabs aren't enough anymore. They pretty much force ya to buy tabs if you want to continue playing. I freaking hate it when morons say make mules, make more account ect. They don't think about if that person's PC can handle more than ONE client OPEN even to trade. IT is NOT going to kill GGG to give out more tabs FFS! It's not like people are asking for every damn tab for free. Giving one prem tab so people can at least sell things, is not going to kill GGG's pocket....

It's soooooooo much of a pain in the butt to spam trade chat, to sell OR use a 3rd party program to sell things without a prem tab, which is lame AF.
If you are lucky to find a nice guild, with tons of stash tabs that you can use would be nice!