uber lab is deep sh*t for no regen/ES char

Although I do like the lab and what it brings in terms of something different, I tend to agree that it is fairly punishing to some build types. Energy Shield, no/low regen builds, minion builds (RIP Spectre/Guardian), etc.

I don't actually think they should do anything to the current lab setup; although I think trials should be more predictable and normalized in terms of difficult but that's a different topic.

Instead I think they should have some sort of alternative way to get points; and no, I don't mean just give them away for free. A few ideas just shooting from the hip:

-A rare orb drop that gives a 1-2 ascendancy points.
-Get the points for leveling (well beyond when you would normally get them) like 2 at 60, 2 at 70, 2 at 80, 2 at 90.
-An alternate path through lab that is not easier/faster but different from the current traps that are not friendly to those builds.


Just a thought.
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So, I agree that there should be some traps that do something other than physical damage, but if you're just mad that your character is shit at lab, you have a few options.

1. Buy a carry like a lot of people do.
2. Make your character not shit at lab (get some physical mitigation and some regen. You don't need a ton.)
3. Become better at running the traps.
4. If you are trying to farm lab, make a lab farmer.

I'm not going to get into the offering rng because we all know that is shit. Literally everyone agrees.

just put in 4 life flasks and a quicksilver

problem solved.
There is content in the game that some builds are just poorly suited to. Lab is the primary one. In the past for vaal pact chars I unspec it for the run. Not ideal but there are ways to work around it. Can run basalt, lite coil and other phys mit for traps. Another extreme example is wait for a lab with multiple early darkshrines and hope to hit trap dam reduction. These thoughts are mainly for stubborn people like me who don't like to buy content skips from other players because that's the obvious solution otherwise.
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Haha, so just because you are bad at running lab, and can't figure out how to avoid traps, they should change it? Figure out how to work around the problems, and do it.

You only have to do it one time on a character, for Uber Lab, after that you can just farm your maps for the next 2 months and 29 days.
... use some life flasks.. when you get to aspirants, swap to normal flasks and kill some mobs? That seems like a pretty easy fix to me!
I don't think dodging traps is that difficult if you have patience. Search for darkshrines for ez content, don't let izaro get buffs, etc etc. If you pretend to rush through traps and go yolo you are dead 100%.

I've self completed the lab on casters with very low regen and i can say it's not that bad with proper and smart movement and flask usage.

Only thing i've heard that REALLY sucks for uber lab is autobomber and not sure if that build is healthy at all.
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Dernière édition par IIPheXII#5639, le 17 avr. 2018 à 18:41:33
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Anonymous1749704 a écrit :
Oh oh, let me paste one of the favorite arguments labyrinth lovers use:

"But if your build struggles with Labyrinth, it doesn't deserve to enter endgame tbh."



You don't need to do lab to do end game, there are plenty of builds that could do it before lab, and most things have got more powerful since then let alone some bonus from the lab.
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Domah a écrit :
I just put it here.

Since the lab release, it's shit, it's shit beyond imagination for low/no regen char.

Because you put on purpose clusterfuck of retarded traps like spike everywhere with anti movement skill "totems" + trigger spike + saw disk + poison zombies + necro who will raise zombies for more poison.

Why have we to do this content to finish our build where it is designed for tanky high passive life regen char ?
With a jugg or RF char, you can just ignore all traps and walking by.

With vaal pact char it's death sentence in 1 sec or less when you fail.

No you add a shitty layout, full traps everywhere, where a single mistake just fuck you up.
While other chars can just walk around and don't care at all.

So please, remove lab, or just let it as a farming area and give us the ascendancy points.

Lab suck, is poorly designed, is annoying to do and totaly unbalanced for many build.


If you're going to complain at least make it constructive. Whining saying "lab sucks" and "give just us the ascendancy points" is worse than...well...lab.

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