Rework the Eradicator

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Chalace2 a écrit :

But to reiterate, I can log on any of my 3 chars from last season I played and do him with my eyes closed, but not the 2 I have this time around, that does not equate to a balanced boss encounter. Especially one as generic progression to the elder; if it was something stand alone & 'optional' like Atziri I wouldn't mind.

To clarify I'm talking about red guardian here, white/yellow are nothing.

Whatever, it no doubt makes no difference what strat you take when your build only needs a single topaz flask to snuff out Eradicator. As none of my builds have more than 5K HP or 50K DPS, flask exhaustion is something of an issue against multiple invulnerability phases.

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pphnx a écrit :

I think Eradicator is just fine. It must be more challenging than regular map bosses it's completely normal.

What abnormal is other guardians. They are way way easier than eradicator even elder may be..

They need to get buff to be as challenging as eradicator.


So stop being a Blizzard crybaby.

The only problem with Eradicator is his invulnerability phases.
It is just too much.

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Apachy a écrit :

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pphnx a écrit :

I think Eradicator is just fine. It must be more challenging than regular map bosses it's completely normal.

What abnormal is other guardians. They are way way easier than eradicator even elder may be..

They need to get buff to be as challenging as eradicator.


So stop being a Blizzard crybaby.

The only problem with Eradicator is his invulnerability phases.
It is just too much.

When he is invul you are invul too. Because it does nothing.

All of his spells when he is invul are easy to dodge even wtihout any movement skill.

We are talking about a guardian that is broken af to be honest. Every other guardian even red elder compared to the eradicator is a joke. There should be a rework. That encounter is no fun at all it's just frustrating. I mean even Mathil was angry about this encounter. Not one time, every time he did him this league.

My experience of the elder and its guardian is pretty meagre but ...

Last league, yellow guardians + elder for the first time in SC, okay dps, didn't notice anything particular and only ripped couple of times on the elder because I went in without any prior information.

This league, SSF HC ( okay dps too, it feels a bit lacking in single target with the current setup but I have no problem against uber Izaro as an example ), white elder ( eradicator was on a yellow map, but I'm not sure of its level.


And well ... I wanted to give this thread a little bump, because compared to the other guardians, even a low level eradicator is like ... completely different :

- The arena is super crowded ( they all have their elements that you have to move around, but this one ... feels either more crowded, or with larger damage spike ... that's the nature of lightning alright, but it still feels a bit too much ).

- the fight lasts quite long, the invulnerability phases feel either too numerous, or too long, or both.

I think that I logged out twice during the fight, because running out of flask and the situation was becomming rippy.

My char is level 92, because of my poor experience of the elder, I did not want to jump into a yellow one in HC directly.

I'll also point out that it's buggy as hell.

Multiple times lately he will just vanish (usually when transitioning to the invul + add spawning phase) and the whole arena is just empty for the 20s.

Then you blink and all the adds + boss + lightning shit appear back, all at once. GJ.

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Chalace2 a écrit :

I'll also point out that it's buggy as hell.

Multiple times lately he will just vanish (usually when transitioning to the invul + add spawning phase) and the whole arena is just empty for the 20s.

Then you blink and all the adds + boss + lightning shit appear back, all at once. GJ.

i've fought him about 20 times this league , and never had this issue.
Perhaps there is something wrong with your connection or video card that cant keep up with the information.


The fight for me is still the toughest part when unlocking elder , you certainly need to have either regen/leech or a way to gain charges on potions. You have to move often as he punishes you for standing still.

i do not need the topaz flask , even if i have - res from the map.
You need atleast 6k EHP for this fight to feel comfortable with most map mods.

The invuln phases are annoying , as i generally use my flasks here instead of recharge them.
Hence, i do agree that this monster is a bit overtuned during these invuln phases.


The fight is essentially a dps check to see if you are ready for elder.

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nadakuu a écrit :

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Chalace2 a écrit :

I'll also point out that it's buggy as hell.

Multiple times lately he will just vanish (usually when transitioning to the invul + add spawning phase) and the whole arena is just empty for the 20s.

Then you blink and all the adds + boss + lightning shit appear back, all at once. GJ.

i've fought him about 20 times this league , and never had this issue.
Perhaps there is something wrong with your connection or video card that cant keep up with the information.

An unacceptable response, 2x Hd 6870's in crossfire, (Yes old, but more than capable of running anything on today's market just fine) they have and still do play any other game flawlessly, so no, nothing wrong there; and my internet connection is flawless.

Not that either of those would make server-side entities simply disappear for the 20s, and only on this one particular fight.

Now I just insta-phase him with arc traps so yeah... nice fight GGG

His invulnerable tentacle phase is cancer. The rest is fine. But that phase is literally the worst phase in the game. It does nothing, there is nothing to do and you just watch whatever environmental effect it triggers.

PS: Your HD 6870s are roughly 10 years old. That's the equivalent of a very weak modern igpu. Probably a 2GB Vram version? Definetly sounds like a loading issue.
Doesn't matter if you can run modern games flawlessy at 640x480. Crossfire doesn't help much either. Also the object is server side, the graphics are all on you. Only because you can't see them doesn't mean they are not there.

I accidentally opened a red Eradicator just now on a character I'm leveling. Level 87, 5-link main skill, crap single target dps. Fight took like 5 mins, still did it deathless, only had to log once to refill flasks.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, git gud scrubs.



On a more serious note, I only did the fight a couple times before this, and I only just now realized how mechanical it is. That's not bad in itself, but the bright flashing lights everywhere make it very hard to read wtf is going on, especially in the last phase. Not that GGG care about the ergonomics of their game, but maybe turning down the contrast would help?