Why Poe is becoming PAY TO WIN GAME - free discusion

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DrGoatMD a écrit :

the only thing I've bought is a pack of stash tabs on discount and i've only done that because I am actually physically incapable of stopping myself from hoarding things that might come in handy eventually

i don't even sell things

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Maybe I'm slow in the head, but you're the one, who does not read the topic (or don't understand it).

Nobody says, that this game should be free! There is a lot of work to make such great game, and we have to pay for work. But I prefer BUY model. It's much more honest, that pretending, that game will never be pay to win, and then introducing purchases, which directly affects gameplay.

I hope you got it now.

To make things clear, I've bought bunch of tabs (currency, premium, and normal ones) by myself. I've also bought soundtrack. I'm unhappy about paying for tabs, I'm happy about paying for soundtrack. Hope you got my point now.

And I don't see how it is related, but I'm in gaming since 1986 or 1987.

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databeaver a écrit :

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Jennik a écrit :

Pay to win in games is almost always used to refer to things purchased in game that give players an advantage. That's what the developers have control over.

Yet a decent computer gives a much larger advantage than stash tabs. If you only have a laptop with integrated graphics that can run the game at 10 fps, you can forget about reaching level 100 at all unless you have help. And speaking of help, don't the top streamers have an unfair advantage in the form of a large fanbase? If they hit the slightest snag, there'll be dozens of players offering them items or currency to keep the show going. Extra stash tabs may make your progress slightly faster, but that's peanuts compared to many external advantages.

I still remember a decade ago when pay-to-win meant spending real money to purchase the infinity plus one sword to kill the final boss of the game with. Or keys to access new areas in the game. You were literally paying for the very ability to win the game. The alternative, if it existed at all, usually involved farming hundreds of hours. One game I played for a while offered free playtime for about an hour per day and required spending money to play more.

These days gamers are happy to slap the term on even the slightest perceived advantage, especially if they can't afford it themselves. Cosmetic microtransactions are usually labeled cash grabs instead, because god forbid a game studio actually gets and income from something.