Faster Attacks better than Multistrike now?

i didn't notice that before, but it seems now FA is much better than multistrike dps'wise

at level 20 FA gives 44% increased attack speed, so with X damage you will do 1.44X dps

at level 20 Multistrike gives 94 more attack speed, so with X damage you will do 1.94X dps but!
it also has a decrease of 30% less damage so in total you will do 1.94*(1-0.3)X=1.358X dps

1.44>1.358 so Faster attacks is better

am i missing something?

increased attack speed is not more attack speed

Your tooltip only accounts for your single hit DPS, generally. So using Multistrike alone may end up showing a decrease in your tooltip DPS while actually increasing it during actual gameplay.

This is a rare case, however. It should properly calculate your actual DPS.

I Never sayed Increasd attack speed is same as More attack speed.
I didnt say anything about tooltip.


it is a pure math, again:

suppose you do 1 attack per sec.
with 44% increased attack speed you will do 1.44 attacks per sec, thats how "increase" works.

with 94% more attack speed you will do 1*(1+ 0.94) =1.94 attacks per sec(thats how "More" works)
that means after losing 30% of the damage you do less dps: 1.94*0.7=1.358.


so again, am i missing something?
or am i right and FA does Better than multistrike?

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Dark_Elf333 a écrit :

I Never sayed Increasd attack speed is same as More attack speed.

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at level 20 FA gives 44% increased attack speed, so with X damage you will do 1.44X dps

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it is a pure math, again:

suppose you do 1 attack per sec.
with 44% increased attack speed you will do 1.44 attacks per sec, thats how "increase" works

yes that is exactly how "increase" works provided there are no other "increases", and is also exactly how "more" works. By saying it gives 1.44x attacks per second you are implying that Faster Attacks is more.

what you are missing is that if you have 40% increased attack speed from other sources, say your passive tree and a pair of gloves or something, 94% more attack speed from multistrike will multiply your aps by 1.94

Faster Attacks will not provide you 1.44 times of attacks per second as you previously had. The marginal increase for the example above with Faster Attacks can be calculated as such: APS/1.4 *(1.4 +0.44) which gives you APS*1.34285714286 which is actually worse than multistrike in pure damage.

ok true, but what about srs?
u dont stuck aps from any source there.
its pure FA vs Multi.

srs base aps is 1.63- so with FA it will still be 1.63*1.44=2.347
while with multi it will be 1.63*1.94*0.7=2.21

so for srs FA is better?

you would have to calculate it from how much minion attack speed from your tree, though there are few enough that i'd imagine Faster Attacks is generally better, and don't forget to factor in flesh offering. Idk if there are many other minion attack speed stuff commonly used aside from that amulet whose name I can never spell correctly.

for srs i've heard there are other minor problems with multistrike though, such as your srs being forced to attack the air multiple times if they 'overkill' a mob and no other in range.

alright, tyvm for the info :)

It can be better when you have little %increased attack speed from other sources.

In addition to what was said, don't forget Multistrike also cuts mana costs down quite a bit. If you're running your main attack off unreserved mana (or energy shield with Eldritch Battery) then paying 80 mana for three attacks or paying 240 mana for three attacks can make a big difference in being able to sustain.