Rat Cage is (probably not) Underrated

oops!
The real question is, does it have a 3D art yet?

That determines whether it is useful or not in its current state.
GGG must think the extra life and movement speed are very powerful.
According to my calculations, you receive roughly 30% more fire damage while wearing this chest.



NORMAL SCENARIO:
1000 Fire hit, with 75% res, you end up taking 250 damage.



RATE CAGE SCENARIO:
1000 Fire hit, Rat Cage, 70% (75%-5%) Res, you end up taking 324 Fire damage and 36 physical Damage.


Assuming the physical part is mitigated you receive:
324/250 = 1,296 more fire damage.



Unless you are immune to fire damage, Rat Cage's stat: You take 20% increased fire damage will always mean that you take 20% more fire damage. Imo, GGG would not have needed to put a -max res on the item.
Dernière édition par Mr_Mustasch#5043, le 15 févr. 2015 à 08:00:49
i updated the wiki
The planes and trains are to blame
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Dernière édition par Filinomen#5872, le 14 juin 2019 à 12:54:13
It's most unique property imo is having movement speed on a chest. A high value movement speed that is.

Only QotF will be better if you have the required evasion.

In a sense the additional life simply allows you to run Rise of the phoenix, like it had a life roll on it.

And as a consequence enhancing the drawback of the chest itself (putting you at 78% fire resistance again)

Combined with PoF, i could see this chest work a good number of builds that benefit from movement speed.

Peace,

-Boem-
Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes
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Boem a écrit :
It's most unique property imo is having movement speed on a chest. A high value movement speed that is.

Only QotF will be better if you have the required evasion.

In a sense the additional life simply allows you to run Rise of the phoenix, like it had a life roll on it.

And as a consequence enhancing the drawback of the chest itself (putting you at 78% fire resistance again)

Combined with PoF, i could see this chest work a good number of builds that benefit from movement speed.

Peace,

-Boem-


Yeah that's what I originally thought when I saw this item. However, I now realize that in almost every case, You are better off wearing a rare body armor with hp + shield with hp, rather than rats cage + Rotp. The only exception being a build that for some reason really needs the movement speed, as you mentioned.
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BearCares a écrit :
It just occurred to me what rat cage is meant to do. I know... I'm quite slow. But it's meant to replace cloak of flame in the end game for mokou's embrace builds. Giving 15% move speed and 200 life.

It's actually a build enabler!

I can't tell you how many times I changed my mind about trying a build because of its reliance on being ignited and the fact that cloak of flame has no ES or Life.

I stopped leveling a mapping character in Beyond once because I couldn't change my rings or chest. And it made doing maps a little dangerous to say the least. But now, I wouldn't have had to stop leveling if this chest had been out back then.

followed by

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Deadpeng a écrit :
It was never underrated. Some of the top POE players run rat nests on their 100K DPS builds as their ultimate helmet. Everyone is well aware it is a GG unique for the right builds.

You are indeed slow as you said.

is trolling at its finest.
Dreamfeather Elemental Cleave Ranger: http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1087616
Dernière édition par Tempada#2630, le 15 févr. 2015 à 14:45:45
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Deadpeng a écrit :
It was never underrated. Some of the top POE players run rat nests on their 100K DPS builds as their ultimate helmet. Everyone is well aware it is a GG unique for the right builds.

You are indeed slow as you said.


Oh the irony.

You were so keen to be superior and all you get for your effort is egg on your face. How dumb do you feel right now?

Honestly, how dumb?
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ObscureBalrog a écrit :
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SirLoin a écrit :
Rat Cage doesn't do anything for Mokou's builds. You'd still get ignited just as often as with any other chest(besides cloak of flame). Cloak makes you take a portion of phys dmg as fire dmg. Rat Cage does the opposite, you take more fire dmg which doesn't affect your chance to be ignited or ignite duration on you.


I presume there is a mistake in the OP reasoning, due to an error on the wiki.
I presume, because i don't have the rat cage myself, but looking at this screenshot

the conversion should be fire -> phys

BUT on the wiki is stated as phys -> fire (as cloak of flame)

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/The_Rat_Cage


haha ur right. Nvm then. I'm at least glad I could help the wiki a little bit xD

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