Confused by the lore of the game.
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Hi guys. I like getting into the lore of games and there is something I don't understand about Path of Exile.
I've just started the game, I admit, but I understand we were exiled from Oriath. Okay, in the map it says there is an island named Oriath, with a city named Theophoils. Is that correct? Because I don't understand why so many people can get exiled to populate a big continent like Wraeclast from such a tiny island. I read from people around internet that Oriath is a very big continent, bigger than Wraeclast, while some wiki pages say however that Oriath is just that tiny island located in the south-east. I don't understand. :( |
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what's there to understand? Its fictional. Does this stuff really bother you?
E: this help any?
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That it's fictional doesn't mean there can't be a logical lore. I'm not usually the kind of guy that questions and try to find every flaw from a plot of a game or movie or tv show, but this thing I asked seems to me a bit too weird for a plot.
I'm confused about Oriath. Next to that tiny south-eastern island it says "Oriath". Some wiki pages state such tiny island is Oriath as well. If that's true I don't understand why so many people can be exiled from there to a big continent like Wraeclast. Also, It shouldn't be hard to regroup all "criminals" and use a ship to get back to there. The only thread I found about it is this one, where some say Oriath isn't actually that Island where Theopolis is located. http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/376007/page/1 I understand people that don't feel like getting too much into the lore but I think my consideration is worth of being taken a shot and not just discarded with a "hey, it's all fictional". English isn't my mother language, sorry if I sound like I'm bashing the game or being rude. I love PoE actually, I'm surprised this game trully beats certain famous one that charges you 50€ for the base one and then 30€ per expansion. It's actually because I like it why I'm asking for a clarification about the lore involving Oriath. :) |
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OP has clearly never had a history lesson on Australia and Britain, on which Wraeclast and Oriath are loosely based. You realize Australia was almost entirely populated by British exiles, prisoners, and a few dirt-poor settlers, right? It's all a matter of population density. Obviously Oriath is densely urban.
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I'm aware of the history of Australia.
But the UK and Australia were two lands very far away. The UK had many cities and towns. I wouldn't say that mainland UK is a tiny island. Midsized maybe. But here Oriath and Wreaclast are very close, and Oriath just contains a city. It's like if Oriath was an island like Menorca xd I find then a bit weird that from an apparent very small island there can be so many people to get exiled from. And in that thread I linked to in my previous post there are others who think the same so it can't be such a weird consideration. This is why I was curious about how and what Oriath really is. If Theopolis is a super-megapolis then I think it could make sense, but it doesn't look so. It looks like a very small island without other settlements than a single small city near a hill. |
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Well, from what I have seen in my playtime, there are not a whole lot of exiles. I am not sure about the people piety is experimenting on, whether they are mostly indigenous cannibal types or actual exiles, but there are only a few thousand at most.
theopolis, on the other hand, may only be the capitol of a state inhabited by millions of people. Perhaps everyone in the empire that is accused of a major crime is sent to theopolis to be tried, and that is why all the exiles come from there. |
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1. Old maps like this are never to scale.
2. It's not saying there are no other cities on Oriath, it's just labelling the capital city. Even lots of modern globes do this - they label the country and the capital and nothing else. 3. Compared to Australia, Britain is tiny. Roughly the same scale as Oriath is to Wraeclast, in fact. 4. There really aren't that many civilized people on Wraeclast. Most of the zombies and humans in Act 1 and 2 aren't exiles, they're descendants of the Eternal natives. There's a few dozen exiles in the towns and -maybe- a few hundred in the Bandits' armies. That's it. |
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Looking at the Wraeclast map again reminds me of all the possible wonders GGG could add to PoE.
Excited for Act 4! :D |
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I you by "many" exiles mean all the players, then sure there might be a bit too many exiles to logically fit with the scale of Oriath. However, we don't know what Oriath really is. Theopolis might be an island outside a bigger land mass, or that island might be densely populated. For example, the current population of Australia is 23 million while the current population of UK is 64 million, even though Australia's land mass is many times bigger.
What I can gather from the wiki (http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/History_of_Wraeclast), Oriath seems to be a colony of "The Empire" which we can assume is allegorical to UK (a place further away). It is not that the lore is illogical, it is more that we are ignorant of the lore as it is only fed to us in small small snippets in the game. |
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" I understand the map isn't at scale, but you'd expect distances to be more or less the same everywhere in the given map. At the start of the game, from the shipwreck to the Lioneye's Watch, which is a small walk, it covers the same distance than half of the Oriath Island. Also, the Fellshrine Ruins seem to be as big as the Oath Island itself, and from what I can see in Youtube, it's not that big of a ruins. I haven't played much the game but If you say there aren't that many people from Orieth in Wraeclast, then I feel all this issue is more logical, thanks for the information then. But I expected all these exilees from different classes to be from a very vast continent and not just from a little island. Anyway, perhaps we'll see more clarifications involving this as GGG releases more acts. Thanks guys for the replies anyway. I thought I was missing something but it seems the plot is not all that revealed still. |
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