Remove MF completely from game

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nynyny a écrit :

So, at what point will you people stop to request that they remove any mechanic that requires time investment, flawless gameplay or quick reflexes?

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nynyny a écrit :

So, at what point will you people stop to request that they remove any mechanic that requires time investment, flawless gameplay or quick reflexes?

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ScrotieMcB a écrit :

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nynyny a écrit :

So, at what point will you people stop to request that they remove any mechanic that requires time investment, flawless gameplay or quick reflexes?

You mean like reflected damage? Yeah, that's annoying too; I'd get rid of it as a monster mod but keep it as a map mod.

Oh wait, you were somehow being rhetorical and overly cryptic at the same time, and this is turning into a derail. Hmmm.

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nynyny a écrit :

dont build a 600% crit multiplier character who is casting everything himself.

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WUlf1337 a écrit :

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5,6k Views and 170+ posts within 3 days: Any chances a DEV will give a comment, whether there is a possibility that this system will get some changes?

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Hi,

for me there is just no good reason why MF exists. What is EVERY Hack n' Slay about?

Grinding items & builds.

How should I grind items? In the most effective way.
How can I do this? Stack MF...MF...MF

What is the situation with builds:

Diversity of builds is rly important or at least the possibility to have diversity, which is for some ppl the reason to keep playing a game for long. Starting new chars, trying out ideas

Can I build the maximum dmg of my char, what I would actually like to do? Sure I can, but then I need around 3-4 times longer to get the desired currency/items to get my build to work.
There hasn't been any other game, where i started so many new chars, trying stuff out. And then in the lategame? I stack MF or play my MF char, to farm items for new builds.


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We are so used to MF that it has become normals like our daily bread, without asking ourselved, whether we rly need it or even want it. Sure, it is one more stat on items, that can make it worthy. But will it lead to more build variety?
PoE is always praising itself to be a hardcore/oldschool game. Ok. Let me try to survive, obtianing high killspeed and let me play like that. But dont force me into a specific direction: MF.

Truely one will say: "Noone is forcing you to go MF. Play your highdps char if you like to it is all about fun." Well, truely spoken dear friend, but do I really want to need 4 times longer to equip my chars, than others do? I also have a real life, I also have to work. I cant play everyday for 8 hours or multibox the shit out of this game.



For me there is just NO GOOD reason, that MF exists. This would be compensated by the maps. Maps were NEVER intended to be used for leveling. As devs said, THEY ARE FOR ITEMFARMING (although they are now all there is as endgame content, so....they are used for both. lvling and itemfarming).

Remove all MF, give 2 Map types (exp and MF). Or remove MF completely. I wouldn't shed a single tear.



That is all i wanted to say.
Enjoy the weekend.

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Nice that so many ppl agree with me.


Those who disagree: You are completely right, when you say, that MF adds a bit of depth of planning to your build. Because you have to sacrifice DPS and Def for it.

The only problem atm moment is, that you really HAVE to go into this direction, unless you want to spent ages to make any progress.

In my op droprates in this game are so low, that you get forced into mf (Which is oc part of the concept. If the droprates would be high, noone would go mf but for killspeed). But as others said before: There are builds which 100% fit a mf style and others dont. What is better for a game, which is designed around build-diversity?

Its the same problematic, as it is with lioneyes glare (op bow - need nerf): Some changes have to be made but there will be players, who will be hurt extremely by those changes, perhaps a whole build gets destroyed. So where the problematic with Lioneyes is still up, we are talking here about a whole mechanic of the game, not only a single item. So the chances it will be ever removed are 0. But one should always consider:

WE ARE IN A BETA! IF THINGS WONT BE CHANGED HERE THEN....


But still I had to make this post, just to see what the common opinion is.

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ScrotieMcB a écrit :

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nynyny a écrit :

dont build a 600% crit multiplier character who is casting everything himself.

Especially not in Hardcore, right?

Yeah, okay, maybe I'm a little bitter. But I think glass-cannon (without totems or traps) should be very difficult, not flat-out impossible.

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nynyny a écrit :

Reflect damage? Annoying? Its probably one of the easiest mechanics to deal with if you play cautiously and dont build a 600% crit multiplier character who is casting everything himself.

Or you can just go Vaal Pact.

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nynyny a écrit :

Using Vaal Pact as CI makes it impossible for you to ever one shot yourself as long as you use multiple projectiles and the pack doesnt consist of 20+ mobs. As a life based character reflect is a little bit harder to deal with, but since a life based character would most likely start as either Marauder or Duelist, therefore having easy access to Elemental Adaptation, you would cap at around 87% with flasks, not even considering +max res items or Purity.

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nynyny a écrit :

why crit and not just a shitton of flat damage or simply stop getting multiplier after you reach 300%?