Waystones dont' drop enough in 0.3.1

Most maps I get only one waystone back even as I run 6mod T15s, with 150%+ increased waystones found in the area.

This forces me to run not-so-fun waystones (chilled ground, temporal chains; I still refuse to run ele pen maps). And to apply 3 tablets, I "have to" run 6 mod waystones, so I cannot just breeze through atlas using normal or magic waystones and still have some "juice" and good drops. Previously I'd just drop three tablets in any tower I was passing by, had plenty.

FWIW, tablets are also not really dropping.

Buff cartography drops.

+1

Current waystone drops are unsustainable. I will not run any crap ass chilled ground map. I usually get 1 waystone per map. I have plenty of waystone nodes selected in my Atlas tree.

If I have 5 waystones, run them all and get 5 waystones back, eventually I will get some chilled ground maps. See above statement about chilled ground maps.

This dwindles down any waystones I do have to the point that I will run out. People should not be forced to spend tablets juicing maps so that they get more waystones to continue mapping. You should not have to juice maps in order to keep mapping. Especially if they have spent the appropriate points in the Atlas tree.

You can't even reforge 3 shitty T15 waystones into a random T15 waystone.

Also, the -60% chilled and fire spots on maps is complete rubbish. There is no way in hell that they have been reduced by 60%.

I also wanted to add how much fun it is to have bosses on EVERY map when the boss area is filled with Abyss, fire patches or chilled patches.

Really took any fun out of mapping.

I wanted to add one more thought and this is a broad generalization so don't think that I am saying this applies to everyone.

For the most part, the people that min/max don't do it for mapping. They do it so that they can destroy the absolute hardest content in the game.

The people that do mostly mapping are typically going to be your more casual crowd.

I really feel that GGG is playing to the wrong crowd with the changes to maps. I'm not necessarily talking about towers.

I am talking about the need to juice everything with a 6 mod waystone and tablets in order to get anything.

Im talking about the reduction in shrines.

Im talking about the quantity issues.

Im talking about the removal of rare markers.

Im talking about abyss, fire, chill being in boss areas

Im talking about needing a boss on every map to complete

Im talking about the loot drops definitely feeling lower (not talking to you guys running tower juiced maps for double juice)

Im talking about map bosses that have definitely been tweeked

I had the same issue, i used to kill all the rares with icons for one waystone then do map bosses. I didn't play a meta build. I was able to do most content and had fun.

After the update the bosses are nerfed for meta builds. So many off meta builds become unplayable.

Breach... has a time limit if you arent zoomy enough to keep up.

For all the talk about not wanting meta builds to roam, all the updates forced me to from here one out play meta just to play the game and complete its content.

I prefer not playing meta builds, but if it's the only way to play and keep maps sustainable and complete the content. I have no choice.

I just wanted to bring this back up. I just ran a T15 4 mod waystone with +60% waystones. I picked map that had some + waystone from a previousl tower. I added a couple of tablets to bring the overwall waystones modifier to 155%. The map also had 28% waystone modifier for boss drops. I cleared every monster on that map. Then, I killed the boss. Total waystones recieved? 1

That is absolute ass lol.

Waystones are not sustainable in their current state.

Can you run T6 with 300% waystones? Sure.

Should you have to do this just to keep your waystone inventory up? No

Should you have to do this just to keep playing the game (because all end game content comes from mapping to locations or getting drops while mapping)? No

I get usually 2 off of bosses. And they drop throughout the map as well. I'm at the point if rather get anything other than Waystones. My drops have felt terrible though.