Towers were never an issue.

I don't know where or why that became a thing. I think it came from streamers, and if so, GGG listen:

STREAMERS ARE KILLING YOUR GAME. STOP LISTENING TO THEM.

It was straight forward.

- Kill rares, optionally a boss, move on to next map.
- Find additional end game content such has Breach, have fun
- Make it more challenging by going to a tower and juicing maps


There was nothing wrong about that. If you wanted to "fix" endgame, just make more interesting content, like a raid or something.

For example: Trials in Endgame Maps with 6 players (solo optional), but without the honor system and it's extremely difficult.

i agree, i hate that now i have to take time to juice every single map individually. I dont see the point of having a giant map tree if all the maps are the same now.

Yep. Streamers who only care about making drama for views are ruining gaming. Taking tower buffs away sucks. A boss on every map sucks. Decreasing the size of some of the maps suck.

It's like the only people they care about are the max level, max gear, speed running streamers and screw the rest of us who want to enjoy the game, enjoy the maps and not just sprint through everything.

We all don't have 90-hours per week to play games - SOME OF US HAVE A JOB.

I, like many, enjoy taking my time, enjoying the fights, enjoying the maps and exploring around to find lock boxes, rogue exiles, opening every chest in hopes of finding that Divine.

Not all of us have 500% rarity on every map. we don't have people donating gear to us so we can out stream other streamers. We are regular people just trying to enjoy our time away from the real world.

Isn't the point of a game to PLAY THE GAME? Not just to rush through and unlock the next thing? Catering to a mindset of "instant gratification" is not a great way to maintain a game.

I'm not a streamer and I entirely disagree with everything you said.

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gothaize#2921 a écrit :

I'm not a streamer and I entirely disagree with everything you said.

Same

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gothaize#2921 a écrit :

I'm not a streamer and I entirely disagree with everything you said.

Same

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Ichiritzu#9981 a écrit :

I don't know where or why that became a thing. I think it came from streamers, and if so, GGG listen:

STREAMERS ARE KILLING YOUR GAME. STOP LISTENING TO THEM.

It was straight forward.

- Kill rares, optionally a boss, move on to next map.
- Find additional end game content such has Breach, have fun
- Make it more challenging by going to a tower and juicing maps


There was nothing wrong about that. If you wanted to "fix" endgame, just make more interesting content, like a raid or something.

For example: Trials in Endgame Maps with 6 players (solo optional), but without the honor system and it's extremely difficult.

It was one of the wrost iterations of arpg endgame I have ever seen, and I played every poe 1 endgame there was. Running 50 usless maps to get a few juiced ones is awful and the overwhelming majority of the playerbase agrees, it was the single most complained about thing in the game. Towers suck ass. I can't believe people have this opinion lol

Yeah no, towers were a bad mechanic. GGG took the old defunct sextant mechanic from PoE1 and made them spawn randomly in the atlas, giving you no control over their placement. They literally took what worked in PoE1, made it worse, and put it in PoE2.

That said, this new change is still bad, but not because people can't make stupid juiced maps anymore.

Just implent "The Grand Project" Function into every Tower per Default and 0.3 Endgame is already perfect.

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gothaize#2921 a écrit :

I'm not a streamer and I entirely disagree with everything you said.

Same