SSF crafting is horrendous - buff Omen & Bone drops

Omen & bone drop rates are horrible. It's especially bad on SSF.

Omen of Abyssal Echoes is practically non-existent. I've had 2 drop and apparently I was lucky because I heard other players say they never got one. Both times I used them, I got terrible results. So on top of the drop rate being ridiculously low, I also didn't benefit from it. Crafting with Omens is a distant dream.

I also only ever got 1 Preserved Collarbone and 1 Preserved Cranium so desecrating rings/amulets & gems is practically impossible.

I'm currently sitting on multiple gear pieces because I simply don't have any Omens to commit to crafting. I'm basically hard-stuck farming T15's. Drop rate should at the very least be doubled if not tripled in some cases.

I agree, and I'd like to join the rant.

All crafting currency drops are way too scarce to allow for a meaningful crafting, and omens are the worst offender.

I've been mapping for over 100 hours already, doing deli t15s, spamming ritual/quantity precursor tablets on every tower and half of slots in my Ritual stash tab are still empty.

Are we really supposed to play for couple hundred hours just to get one Omen of Whittling, which might not even be enough to get the outcome we want in the crafting process? Even if we find it, at this point it's probably wiser to sell it and buy the gear. No scratch that, when we finally find that single Omen we will probably have top of the line gear - bought - already.

This is ridiculous, tedious and not fun, and the reason why all endgame crafting currencies have to be some kind of Holy Grail is beyond me... If it's otherwise bad for bussiness, buff (substantiallly) the drop rate exclusively for SSF!

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peter1990ex#0531 a écrit :

Omen & bone drop rates are horrible. It's especially bad on SSF.

Omen of Abyssal Echoes is practically non-existent. I've had 2 drop and apparently I was lucky because I heard other players say they never got one. Both times I used them, I got terrible results. So on top of the drop rate being ridiculously low, I also didn't benefit from it. Crafting with Omens is a distant dream.

I also only ever got 1 Preserved Collarbone and 1 Preserved Cranium so desecrating rings/amulets & gems is practically impossible.

I'm currently sitting on multiple gear pieces because I simply don't have any Omens to commit to crafting. I'm basically hard-stuck farming T15's. Drop rate should at the very least be doubled if not tripled in some cases.

Get your Rarity up.

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Fae_Lyth#6750 a écrit :

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peter1990ex#0531 a écrit :

Omen & bone drop rates are horrible. It's especially bad on SSF.

Omen of Abyssal Echoes is practically non-existent. I've had 2 drop and apparently I was lucky because I heard other players say they never got one. Both times I used them, I got terrible results. So on top of the drop rate being ridiculously low, I also didn't benefit from it. Crafting with Omens is a distant dream.

I also only ever got 1 Preserved Collarbone and 1 Preserved Cranium so desecrating rings/amulets & gems is practically impossible.

I'm currently sitting on multiple gear pieces because I simply don't have any Omens to commit to crafting. I'm basically hard-stuck farming T15's. Drop rate should at the very least be doubled if not tripled in some cases.

Get your Rarity up.

This is your solution, seriously? It solves nothing. I'm using over 120 rarity increase and I bet OP has some also, but 100% increase of a 0.01% chance is still an abysmal 0.02% chance.

Because of that, apart from essences (which are in a good spot right now, at least compared to others) and dessecration currency, all the other endgame crafting currencies are impossible to target farm with any sense of progress.

By the way, rarity shouldn't even be necessary to (hopefully) get one rare omen after countless hours of farming. Omens are tens of times too rare right now.

The game is "balanced" around trade. IMO It's meant to be a combat slot machine and not a structured challenged. I would forget about Omen crafting in SSF.

ssf is a pain. Chances are very low to even start rolling.

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Fae_Lyth#6750 a écrit :

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peter1990ex#0531 a écrit :

Omen & bone drop rates are horrible. It's especially bad on SSF.

Omen of Abyssal Echoes is practically non-existent. I've had 2 drop and apparently I was lucky because I heard other players say they never got one. Both times I used them, I got terrible results. So on top of the drop rate being ridiculously low, I also didn't benefit from it. Crafting with Omens is a distant dream.

I also only ever got 1 Preserved Collarbone and 1 Preserved Cranium, so desecrating rings/amulets & gems is practically impossible.

I'm currently sitting on multiple gear pieces because I simply don't have any Omens to commit to crafting. I'm basically hard-stuck farming T15's. Drop rate should at the very least be doubled if not tripled in some cases.

Get your Rarity up.

Rarity does nothing for Omens. I had around 120% and it didn't help at all (40 head, 20 gloves, 20 each ring, 20 amulet). I gave up on crafting and just spammed Exalted Orbs. I felt like I wasted a bunch of good gear I had but it was either that or they remain in my storage indefinitely.

Anyway, I stopped playing today after killing Arbiter. If crafting doesn't improve, I really don't see myself getting into endgame again any time soon. There's really no joy grinding T15's non-stop for some mediocre gear and I don't intend on farming Abyss & Ritual for days on end just to get one try at rerolling a single gear piece. That's exactly what happened to me today before I decided screw it, I'll just fight Arbiter with trash gear. I finally got one Omen of Abyssal Echoes after farming T15's for 2-days straight, used it and got yet another disappointing result.

I'm done with crafting. I had to spam Exalted Orbs in v0.1 and I didn't expect to have to do that in v0.3 as well and yet here we are. Speaking of orbs, where are Perfect Exalted/Chaos/Regal orbs? Did they add those in the game or are those slots in currency tab just placeholders? I only ever got 2 Greater Chaos orbs as well and I'm L94. Drop rates are atrocious!!

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darrenrob82#3531 a écrit :

The game is "balanced" around trade. IMO It's meant to be a combat slot machine and not a structured challenged. I would forget about Omen crafting in SSF.

a) You don't need the quotes; the economy is balanced around trade. Currency and item drop rates and rolls are designed so you can trade away the things that have less value for you and acquire things of greater value from other players who need them less; this is the core of the game's economy and without it you are going to suffer from a lack of currency as well as a glut of items that aren't relevant for you and your build. If this is not how you want to experience the game, you should not play SSF.

b) A "combat slot machine" seems like a deliberately denigrating phrase to describe the most common and popular loot mechanics that have existed in the ARPG genre since they were introduced by Diablo. I don't know why the presence of randomized loot precludes a "structured challenge" whatever your criteria are for that -- it seems like these two things are not mutually exclusive.

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peter1990ex#0531 a écrit :

Rarity does nothing for Omens. I had around 120% and it didn't help at all (40 head, 20 gloves, 20 each ring, 20 amulet)

So 100 trials? And how likely is the outcome you were after? Because unless it's greater than like 5% then of course you're not going to notice the difference between 100% and 120% over that many trials. That doesn't mean it "does nothing." That's not how probability works.

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Drop rates are atrocious!!

I mean, they're just fine when you have the opportunity to benefit from the drops other people are getting which is how the game is intended to be played and how the drops and economy are balanced.

Like, of course the rates are atrocious dude. You're supposed to have access to the drops from a million other people. You can see how that might make a difference, right?

It's cool if you genuinely hate trading so much that SSF is the only option for you but at that point I would have just advised you to never try PoE in the first place because this is how SSF has worked ever since they introduced it.

It's completely fine if the best uniques, support gems, jewels etc are incredibely rare, you can then decide if you want to farm for them for weeks and have that adrenaline rush when you finally drop them, or buy them if you gain enough currency.

It's not fine however when the tools for crafting are the part of that pool of incredibely rare items. I want to have a possibility of crafting in endgame, right now it's reserved for those who already have the top of the line gear and/or are the barons of trading.

And also, I want the things I spec into to feel like they have any weight. If I manage to beat a pinnacle boss, get point in +100% chance for omens at the ritual altars, I want to see the difference.

Kerchunk the way you describe the game might be true, and that's what worries me. This game has a potential to be a great ARPG and it advertises itself as one, but the thing you describe is a trading simulator with purchase testing areas.