Please don't mid league nerf specters

The "what we're working" post contains a bugfix for this week's patch indicating you are removing the inherent modifiers for set piece rare monsters turned into specters in the interlude. This includes Fleshpierce I assume (a large bug monster who is specterable in the Vastiri interlude at the wandering merchant encounter).

For those who don't know this mob, when converted to a specter retains his inherent haste aura at present, providing a movement and attack speed buff to the player and your minion horde for the price of an 84 spirit specter.

Removing this functionality would be a gigantic mid league nerf to specter builds and regular minion builds that currently pay a lot of spirit for this effect. While it won't full brick minions, and I understand it is a bugfix, and not a balance adjustment, please consider postponing this bugfix until the next major patch if your policy is going to remain that you do not nerf builds mid league.

I guarantee minion players will be far more upset about this change than any numerical nerf minions might receive, especially if you continue to avoid mid league nerfs for other builds.

For the record, I am for mid league nerfs in general, and I don't think the policy to avoid them is correct for an early access game and I think it hamstrings GGG and lengthens the time it will take the to improve the state of POE2, but if you are going to have this policy, please do not nerf some builds under the guise of bugfix while leaving other more egregious balance outliers in place until next patch.

Thanks

You're basically admitting that this was a bug and a core part of your build. If you make a build that utilizes a bug you ought to expect it to be "nerfed." It should not be surprising to anyone that GGG decides to fix unintended behavior as soon as possible. If anything, this tells us that they're trying to stay on top of fixing the game.

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endgrant#7379 a écrit :

You're basically admitting that this was a bug and a core part of your build. If you make a build that utilizes a bug you ought to expect it to be "nerfed." It should not be surprising to anyone that GGG decides to fix unintended behavior as soon as possible. If anything, this tells us that they're trying to stay on top of fixing the game.

Nono, they should leave all bugs as a feature! In fact, they should just add more bugs, so people can exploit them more, instead of playing the actual game.

I hope GGG will remove Deadeye ascendancy. This is how you cheat in game!

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endgrant#7379 a écrit :

You're basically admitting that this was a bug and a core part of your build. If you make a build that utilizes a bug you ought to expect it to be "nerfed." It should not be surprising to anyone that GGG decides to fix unintended behavior as soon as possible. If anything, this tells us that they're trying to stay on top of fixing the game.

I did not consider it a bug. I only consider it a bug now because GGG announced in their post that it was being removed as a bugfix. This functionality was already available through companions, although at the cost of a percentage spirit cost instead of flat, and a scaling off dexterity rather than intelligence, so there wasn't much reason to consider it a bug (other than the mob itself being a moth lol).

It isn't gamebreaking, but it is unique and uniquely powerful.

I will keep on if this gets nerfed, but it will feel awful getting what looked like a fun and interesting interaction being removed mid league when it wasn't game breakingly powerful, and wasn't egregious towards balance compared to what else is in the game presently.

Its not even MID league yet. Its been under a week.

To the people calling it a known bug, how are we supposed to know what is and isn't supposed to work?

3 days is not "mid" league.

Minions and Lightning Arrow both need to be mid-league nerfed.

This is a tough one. It’s right on the edge. I can see the arguments both ways, and I say that as someone currently using them.

I won’t be butt hurt with either decision they make honestly.

I do wish they would spend more time improving the other classes rather than nerfing the classes people are having fun playing though.

I hope its not that big a nerf or they rethink it. I like the idea of being able to aim for specific spectres/tamed beasts for unique effects and utility over just damage, but I guess that'd make things too fun/interesting.

It's also nice to be able to use something more than just Vaal guards or the boring skeletons.