Streamers who are in hideout 24/7

In 2005, Kyle MacDonald was working at his desk when he saw a little red paperclip. He was reminded of a game he played as a child called “bigger and better,” where each player starts with a small object and tries to trade it up for something bigger and better.....

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The end of the story...And that’s how Kyle MacDonald traded a paperclip for a house.

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Dernière édition par JunkHeadJoePC#0361, le 7 mai 2025 à 15:54:21
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Snorkle_uk#0761 a écrit :
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theres no streamer client.





EVERYTHING you said is false. you've found multiple hh/mb/mirrors in one day in non juiced content?

mathil is never poor. his shit sells instantly and he makes insane builds and so does ziggy. I watched one of ziggies recent videos where he shows his buildand gear and half of it's mirror tier lol

I'm sorry you're not able to see what's right in front of you because you're an npc, and i'm glad you are lucky in your playthrough. I too have had lucky streaks, but even tripolar bear quit because, in his own words, it just became too obvious that he and others were on the streamer client.

You don't look through a ziz, alk, steelmage, dslily or any ssf player highlight video and see them sad the entire time. No they have 20 min of "omg, how is it possible i found this item, there's no hwaaay!!"

I'll agree NOT EVERY streamer is on streamer client, and not every streamer that is on it is on it on purpose. Why would ggg put streamers on a special server that gives them better performance, damage, drops and rng? because it not only makes them happy and want to play more, but it gets more viewers to play thinking they can do this. this is NOTHING NEW. many games do this and have for years. you can't come out here with all the proof and people admitting it and say NOTHING HAPPENS. that is either disingenuous or you're a shill.

I'll agree NOT EVERY streamer is working with rmt sites ( obviously not the ssf which is not most streamers ). BUT there are streamers that are and have been caught doing this. And again I personally count viewers buying streamers gear as soon as it's listed and or just blatantly overpriced as rmt. especially since those viewers are mostly rmting to buy it. Again. You can't say none of this happens after years of proof of not only poe but literally every game doing this or you're spreading misinfo on purpose or just low info and acting like you're not.

and you say 1 mirror isn't a lot. it is when it drops for you. and it is when we see you on stream all day then over night you just happen to have a mirror and 10000 100d items to "gamble".

do you not watch streamers and they say "hey chat" ( i call them "hey chat" streamers) and they literally ask chat if they have all the stuff they need?
your hero zizaran does this all the time and he gets mad when you call him out when he does it during a league he doesn't go ssf. mathil doesn't do it but he deons't need to. pom did this egregiously .

i could rant on and on but i doubt some one like you cares about the truth
Dernière édition par RevertHarvest#4002, le 7 mai 2025 à 16:03:26
ive watched mathil and ziggy since day 1 of them streaming, i remember mathils first stream. theyre almost always poor any time ive looked, ive never seen them rich. i remember the time ziggy went out of his way to see if he could actually farm his way to a mirror. 1 mirror. he managed it, i was proud of him, as such a long time figure in the game who has always been just a regular poor person making budget builds it was good to see him finally apply his knowledge and push himself, achieve what he had the knowledge to achieve and join the ranks of the vaguely middle class people who can farm up a mirror if they need to.

meanwhile actual gg players are able to make 10 mirrors in about a week at the beginning of every league.



to you they might seem like insane builds and they might seem rich. ive sat and watched ziggy blow 3k+ fusing trying to get a 6 link and essentially just want to quit the same because hes failed and feels so defeated.

i see streamers rng and it looks just like mine, i find the same amount of shit they do when im playing 1000s of hours in high end content like they do. its not luck its just playing the game. i feel like people just dont have a perspective of what actual rich people look like in this game.


its like looking at people who own 2 nice cars and live in a house worth £3 million and saying theyre rich people, they must be criminals, completely oblivious to the reality that theres people who earn £20 million a year every year, and actually theres people who earn £20 million a month and theyre earning it legitimately. billionaires exist and youre pointing at people on £250k a year saying omg they must be stealing, its impossible to be like that and be doing it legit.
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RevertHarvest#4002 a écrit :

EVERYTHING you said is false. you've found multiple hh/mb/mirrors in one day in non juiced content?



Got any evidence of that happening? ("Go Google it yourself" is not evidence)

As for juiced content- ya its possible. In kalguur league I was finding 2-3 T0s per day. Got my mageblood and ring of kalandra on the same day.

I remember Raxx getting a double mageblood, but the dude was farming the juiciest of juice like 12-14 hrs per day.
"Beidat honored the pact, though Mancy wouldn't take off Doryani’s prototype."
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RevertHarvest#4002 a écrit :

i could rant on and on but i doubt some one like you cares about the truth


The truth is out there, you just got to put on a tin hat and look really really hard for what you believe.

It is pretty obvious that streamers are just AI programs run by the CIA to backdoor the "Farmer Cabal" using RMT to fund North Korea's nuclear program. Or that is what they want you to believe. Let's not forget who owns GGG! Has false flag written all over it. Before POE2 goes 1.0, Twitch or should I say Amazon will "buy" TicTok and the next phase begins.
Who are these streamers that are in their hideout 24/7? Are they two bit grifters?

There's a huge host of streamers that don't stay in the hideout. Heck, Zizaren even says that the hideout is lava, meaning stay as little time in there as possible
From the people I watch, Ziz, Ghazzy, Lolcohol, Fuzzyduckzy, ZiggyD and Balormage, none seem to stay in their hideout, they all have gameplay footage. Again, who are you watching that does that?
Belton and Mr9Lives.
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Galyan#8109 a écrit :
Belton and Mr9Lives.


Well, Belton has 41k followers, so that isn't bad, but Mr9lives only has like 1.4k. That's a warning sign, either he has bad content, or its possible he is just a new content maker.
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Galyan#8109 a écrit :
Is there a standard behavior for a CPA? I believe we do have a code of ethics but no code for morale, nevertheless, our standard is transparency, which is what I am trying to decode with this post.

Where did I call for bans? Did I imply it? Did I express it? It seems my reading comprehension is a bit too slow.

Placing unexplained wealth and its relation to RMT'ing into a microscope is not helpful? My apologies, I thought it would be better for the economy if RMT'ing was actually punished.


I would just assume that a professional who has to deal with the public often would be a calmer person.

Again, what exactly is unexplained here? You are talking about streamers. You watch the stream, you see the process. You should probably direct your attention to the people who don't put their hours in-game live on camera.

Where's the microscope, dude? You called for bans without evidence; and against one of the people who has been the most vocal about RMT, no less. I gave you the microscope, if you want it (watch his stream). You can't swing an axe around and act like you're doing fine detective work for the betterment of the game.

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Snorkle_uk#0761 a écrit :
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Galyan#8109 a écrit :
Yeah 1 exalt to a mirror with no mapping whatsoever, that adds up



yep it does, it makes a lot more sense than turning an exalt into a mirror with mapping.


This. Mapping is putting in hours working at McDonalds. Playing econ simulator is investment banking. Producing mirror items is building Ferraris.

"How in the world did anyone ever turn a small investment into a larger one!?" --Certified Public Accountant
Dernière édition par YNRY#3842, le 9 mai 2025 à 12:38:59
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Galyan#8109 a écrit :
Belton and Mr9Lives.


Mr9lives is a good guy
I used to be part of his "circle"

He has people who find items for him, donate stuff to him in return for elite gear later on once he is established.
He would often craft full suits for specific builds that would farm items for him to craft or flip

He is quite a good crafter once he gets going and established
People scan the trade website for him and snatch up items he needs
Only takes him around a week to get established, then a couple of good crafts and he is away

For my help i was usually rewarded with experience runs for free (poe 1 days)
Got a couple of charactersn to 100 this way (again poe 1 days)

Didnt know he was still going, will have to look him up

But nothing nefarious with this guy, he used to stream like 24 hours at a time, in fact i would spend an hour sniping things for him...go to bed, and when i wake up he is still streaming and crafting.

He is the king of multi-tasking and without being horrible to him probably has ADHD, which actually is a plus for him in this game.

Been here since Open Beta.

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