Is the problem Jonathan?

Yes he is period. All the things I see being improved are things he didn't want suggested. GGG might need to think about it.
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Skyvortex#7923 a écrit :
Playing a video game for the story is like going to the movies for the popcorn.


Agreed, the mood and setting are crucial though, even if you don't care about the story itself.

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Skyvortex#7923 a écrit :
The game doesn't respect your time. And the players that defend it don't know the difference between difficulty and tedium.


The players that attack it don't know the difference between a theme park and a theater.

I can do your kind of manipulation all day.

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Skyvortex#7923 a écrit :
How many players need to tell you that it's awful before you remove it?


How many people have to tell you that a momentary barrage of negativity doesn't mean you are in majority, that even if you are in majority doesn't mean you are right, and to stop soft attempts at presenting opinions as facts and cosnsensus.

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Skyvortex#7923 a écrit :
Sure some players like it. Some people have given money to the Island Boys or are currently buying kale. That doesn't mean either of those things are good.


Some players dislike it. Some people dislike the works of J.S. Bach.

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Skyvortex#7923 a écrit :
If you really want to consider something wild, imagine how many customers have been lost to these two things.
I personally know 5.


Anecdotal. How many were gained because game is what it is now? Idk, do you?
Dernière édition par Rabarbar_Lichy#7553, le 22 déc. 2025 à 00:59:18
Seems this thread is full of people who should probably just relax and wait for full launch or find another game.
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Jitter912#4278 a écrit :
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yetyzyma#6701 a écrit :
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Skyvortex#7923 a écrit :

If you really want to consider something wild, imagine how many customers have been lost to these two things.
I personally know 5.


True

personally friends 3
online "friends" 4


Im the only one i know who plays anymore.
Nobody will join me no matter what i say.

In this arpg, the hero can slip and die!!!
let it sink in, you are living the life of an 85 year old.

Your next nemesis .... the slippery shower ... gasp
embrace the vision, the meaningful one foot then another then anoth... oh noooo
subversion of expectation .... ive fallen and i can't get up!

Better chug that prune juice potion, adjust my +3 depends. And then get back to that quest....


Godslayer
Conquerer of Atlas
... many more titles...

*Slips and dies while running*

People who made this game are clowns, so are the people who plays it.
1. "Meaningful Combat" Is Anti-ARPG: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3884793
2. Mechanical Skill (Dodgeroll) and Intellectual Skill: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3883605
3. Some PoE2 Numbers and Charts: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3896886
Dernière édition par nagisanzeninzz#2697, le 22 déc. 2025 à 01:49:13
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Woogie#5583 a écrit :

- Jonathon and Mark do at least 2 hours of live stream QA every season. They listen to feedback and answer questions. I can count on one hand how many developers do that.


bro, they listen to talkative ape's questions who is GGG shill and the vision supporter because he want more than 50 ppl average online on his streams. so he is ready to please jonathan in any possible way. btw same with ziggyd, true "face of poe community"

very smart move indeed. they won't call fubgun/any other streamer who wants adequate game with adequate endgame (updated poe1 called poe2), they gonna call 50-viewers nonames like talkative ape who can not ask unproper questions or dislike the vision in any way

look at 0.4 retention - 50% day 5, gz its new record, less players than in most disgusting poe1 leagues like necropolis. THE VISION IS GREAT BRO lets slow down the game even more and nerf more builds and ground loot
Dernière édition par SoColdO_O#1989, le 22 déc. 2025 à 03:49:38
Ever since i watched the infamous interview with Zizaran, where he acted sulky at Zizaran's questions, i began to think he might indeed be the problem.
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SoColdO_O#1989 a écrit :
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Woogie#5583 a écrit :

- Jonathon and Mark do at least 2 hours of live stream QA every season. They listen to feedback and answer questions. I can count on one hand how many developers do that.


bro, they listen to talkative ape's questions who is GGG shill and the vision supporter because he want more than 50 ppl average online on his streams. so he is ready to please jonathan in any possible way. btw same with ziggyd, true "face of poe community"

very smart move indeed. they won't call fubgun/any other streamer who wants adequate game with adequate endgame (updated poe1 called poe2), they gonna call 50-viewers nonames like talkative ape who can not ask unproper questions or dislike the vision in any way

look at 0.4 retention - 50% day 5, gz its new record, less players than in most disgusting poe1 leagues like necropolis. THE VISION IS GREAT BRO lets slow down the game even more and nerf more builds and ground loot


Dude, they in the middle of writing a SMP scheduler which will help everyone accross the board, this is no easy joke... This is the kind of task that would probably take Intel or IBM top people a year or two.

I am not defending Jonathan, I don't even think he needs to be defended, but have you ever considered that their content changes might be dependant on this scheduler?

This is a great improvement, not only to consoles, but also for people with real computers like me which are dependant on NUMA architecture. Without a decent scheduler (thanks Jonathan), you are hitting a bottleneck because windows scheduler isn't the right tool...

Then people complain about FPS, stutter and jitter... It's being worked on this is the kind of under the hood changes that if done properly can enable better content if performance is improved.

Do you know why they don't expand this? He tried to talk about it in Talkative Tri interview, he was actually thrilled explaining it, when he noticed Tri wasnt understanding a shit of it and he changed subject.

You guys are judging the architecture of a skyscraper by the colour of the lobby.
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Baroc#2678 a écrit :
Ever since i watched the infamous interview with Zizaran, where he acted sulky at Zizaran's questions, i began to think he might indeed be the problem.



zizs asked some really stupid questions and made himself like like an idiot.

He did what most people on this forum and online do. Complain about something and once pressed...have no solution. It was nice to see Jonathan push back against all his stupid comments with literally nothing of substance other than "I wanna go zoom zoom"
They admitted themselves they stopped listening and tasking feedback to/from community

A large portion of this community cant handle/take critiscm either because their opinion differs and they are clearly right not you, no opinion is invalid, no need to get so defensive and butthurt, its sad
Dernière édition par Jobama#9902, le 22 déc. 2025 à 18:51:49
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Jobama#9902 a écrit :
They admitted themselves they stopped listening and tasking feedback to/from community

A large portion of this community cant handle/take critiscm either because their opinion differs and they are clearly right not you, no opinion is invalid, no need to get so defensive and butthurt, its sad



WEll they didn't fully admit it they just stated they were taking zero feedback without a valid alternative or something that is not clearly skill based. GGG has a vision for the game and they are not taking feedback that makes this game more like POE 1.

I don't think its a large portion of the community but really just a large portion of this forum/reddit that accounts for probably less than 5% of the total playerbase. Judging from the comments it seems a lot of people in this forum want this game to die...which I think should be a insta ban from this forum and the game tbh

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