You made grenade skills WORSE???

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DisposableHeero#1679 a écrit :

I think the missing piece of context here is that Crossbows have been changed to used two handed weapon damage mods, meaning baseline grenade damage is going to be substantially higher than before without any skill changes. That is likely the reason GGG chose to make small "trim around the edges" nerfs to grenades in this update.

Holy fuck, do I have to edit this in on my post? Guess I will.

I don't give a shit about the damage they've done/will do in 0.2.0. I give a shit about their FUSE DETONATION DELAYS. It feels like complete ASS currently, and will be even WORSE.

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Aulyx#1181 a écrit :

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DisposableHeero#1679 a écrit :

I think the missing piece of context here is that Crossbows have been changed to used two handed weapon damage mods, meaning baseline grenade damage is going to be substantially higher than before without any skill changes. That is likely the reason GGG chose to make small "trim around the edges" nerfs to grenades in this update.

Holy fuck, do I have to edit this in on my post? Guess I will.

I don't give a shit about the damage they've done/will do in 0.2.0. I give a shit about their FUSE DETONATION DELAYS. It feels like complete ASS currently, and will be even WORSE.

Holy Fuck mana stackers lost 66% of archmage, had their mana costs more than doubled, the top roll of their best stat taken off every piece of gear, 4 ascendancy notables gutted, ascendancy small passives swapped to irrelevant stats, half the increased max mana on the tree removed, best defensive gem straight up deleted, every remotely good unique cut in half or worse and you're on here complaining about 0.5 seconds on explosive grenade when your damage output probably doubled and your AOE got buffed. Read the writing on the wall bro, run a detonator skill, or barring that roll Titan, take the Near at Hand Cluster, anoint Forthcoming and socket Fast Forward, then you're only nerfed by 150 ms.

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DarkLordOdeo#6686 a écrit :

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SphinxyII#6427 a écrit :

Based on what? You haven't seen gems and I am pretty sure I read they buffed flash grenade. Why is everyone making snarky posts while ignorant?

>Buff flash grenade
Cool it can stun faster
>explosive grenade 7 sec cooldown
thats not a buff

It might be. Explosive grenade was always meant to be a combo skill. There might be a new fuse reduction support to make it work more like it did before, but otherwise you might see big increases in damage on it. We don't know yet. It might be worse on its own but twice as good with explosive shot.

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DreamAgain#4820 a écrit :

They literally buffed the living s*#t out of crossbows "GrEnAdEs ArE dEaD" without even trying the new patch omegalulz

not really a huge buff, and scattershot is nerfed

it's pretty much impossible to use voltaic or explosive grenade for clearing now, and gas grenade is basically useless against bosses since you can't preload anymore. the gas grenade change in particular is terrible, and is obviously made by a person who haven't touched a grenade build before, because gas>explosive>gas>explosive loop doesn't seem possible anymore. sure, there'll be supports and shit to support that playstyle, but why bother when I can use galvanic+shockburst?

flash grenade's damage is very likely to be nerfed by like 30%-40%, so flash grenade titan is also dead

shockburst rounds and explosive shot are guaranteed to be nerfed too, my non-howa shockburst invoker already had like 2m dps with average gear, there's no way they'll let it live or buff it

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DreamAgain#4820 a écrit :

They literally buffed the living s*#t out of crossbows "GrEnAdEs ArE dEaD" without even trying the new patch omegalulz

Adding more damage while slowing down a mechanic makes gameplay worse. See warrior

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Aulyx#1181 a écrit :

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DisposableHeero#1679 a écrit :

I think the missing piece of context here is that Crossbows have been changed to used two handed weapon damage mods, meaning baseline grenade damage is going to be substantially higher than before without any skill changes. That is likely the reason GGG chose to make small "trim around the edges" nerfs to grenades in this update.

Holy fuck, do I have to edit this in on my post? Guess I will.

I don't give a shit about the damage they've done/will do in 0.2.0. I give a shit about their FUSE DETONATION DELAYS. It feels like complete ASS currently, and will be even WORSE.

Exactly. People who actually played Merc understand. People defending this garbage are looking at numbers on a spreadsheet and have no real clue how it actually plays