Why all the hate?

I've logged in 300h so far in PoE2 and I'm still having a blast.

I don't understand the pure hate coming from players in this forum.

People saying

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I have 400h in Poe2 EA and I hate it! The game sucks, GGG is just like all the other companies now, quick cash grabs, we're getting scammed

No man, you're not.

So far from what I experienced this game has more content than any AAA 70$ unfinished game nowdays.
And the funny thing is, Poe2 is actually unfinished...

Yes, the game has issues but how can you expect otherwise from EA? I've never played an EA game to the point where I think about it non stop while not playing it, thinking about how I can build my character further & what to do next. Browse the trading site while I'm at work because I'm just too invested.

I didn't play Poe1 because it was just too complicated and overwhelming for me so maybe I just don't get the point since I see a lot of complains are coming from Poe1 players.

But think about the fact that you just clocked 300h+ into the game and then call it trash? How does that even work? If you try out a game, play maybe 10h, realise it's just not for you and then quit, okay. But spending hundreds of hours into a game and then just ranting about it doesn't really make sense to me. What kept you going for HUNDREDS of hours?

This post is just really to give out some positive feedback about the game since 90% of the threads here are just simply saying the game is bullshit.
I enjoyed the campain, I had a hard time with the monk in the beginning but I liked the class and I just wanted to keep going and boy oh boy was it worth it. The general boss design is amazing, the gameplay feels nice & the endgame is quite fun in my opinion.

Even tho I am one of the people who has to restart their whole PC everytime I launch the game for the first time of the day because my whole system just freezes. I'm still loving this game, man.

There are obviously a lot of improvements needed. But I feel like people are playing EA expecting way too much and that's just unrealistic. For an EA game, this is beyond the majority of other EA games when it comes to content & mechanics.

Also, from what I saw GGG is pretty transparent about their game. Just look the latest interview about the 0.1.1 patch. Just humble guys. You don't get that with the majority of game developers nowdays.

So players, please chill your asses out and understand that this is an EA game, still in development, if you are not happy with it, don't play it. But don't say "I have 400h and this game just purely sucks ass". Doesn't make any sense, man.

Anyways, looking forward for upcoming patches and the new league. Great game so far!

+1, you and me, brother.

The atlas map system is awesome. I love WASD controls, and moving while shooting. I enjoy the crafting system. Pause menu is great. The trials are kinda lame, I'm not gonna lie. But overall, I'm having a blast, and I'm also excited for whatever content they release in the future.

Becase GGG repeatedly lied to its loyal customers and sold us something they werent making then killed all work on the game we love. All to try and get the casual player like you to like the game.

I have news for you, POE2 IS ALMOST EXACTLY POE1. Its just missing a lot of POE1 content and they managed to screw up systems that were working perfectly for years. POE1 was never that complicated to play, all it lacked is marketing and new player onboarding.

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Kraythax#2592 a écrit :

Becase GGG repeatedly lied to its loyal customers and sold us something they werent making then killed all work on the game we love. All to try and get the casual player like you to like the game.

I have news for you, POE2 IS ALMOST EXACTLY POE1. Its just missing a lot of POE1 content and they managed to screw up systems that were working perfectly for years. POE1 was never that complicated to play, all it lacked is marketing and new player onboarding.

Well, I can't really judge on that. The only thing I can say is that since I got so invested into Poe2. Poe1 was also getting more interesting for me, so I started doing some research on Poe1. I watched a ton of videos and to me it doesn't really look like Poe2 is just exactly like Poe1.

Also, it's the 2nd part of a game francise. If you look at any other game that releases a 2nd part. Do you expect it to be something completely different?

I wouldn't.

I don't know what you're talking about GGG lying and stuff. But since this is a EA game, I'm pretty confident that the content that all the Poe1 players are missing is still yet to come.

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And again I just have to say. Keep in mind that it is early access. You sound like they realeased a fully finished game without the possibility of changes. Which is just not the case at all.

Most of the hate is just typical triablism doing its thing due to the cultural influences that have made it the norm in a significant portion of the world's english speaking cultural base.

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Bigwilleh#1842 a écrit :

Most of the hate is just typical triablism doing its thing due to the cultural influences that have made it the norm in a significant portion of the world's english speaking cultural base.

It is weird, isn't it? I wonder if in some other cultures, they're just like, "That's a neat game, isn't it?" "Yeah, it's pretty cool." "Cheers."

There is a whole generation of zoomers that aren't playing a game for the fun of it, to learn or to improve themselves in some ways, but to do like X influencer (sheep mentality), or because it's cool (social pressure), or to have something to brag about (pride).

So they copy paste builds, buy gear on trade site, then go get destroyed in early endgame and complain that nothing was ever preparing them to play it, and that they deserve and should be able to clean the whole -optional endless endgame- content in a breeze, just because they were told they were precious and good at everything their whole childhood.

But oldschool games aren't there to give you an easy time. There are there to offer you some challenges to overcome by grinding knowledge and skill, facing trials and errors, gitting good, which is pleasing and rewarding in itself. Which is way too much efforts for this new generation having the attention span of a tiktok and the spine of a jellyfish.

And then they complain that the game is badly designed and direspecting their time. Because that's easier than to self reflect when failing, dying over and over again, and simply being told by the machine mind of the game that you just suck.

Also ; remember what we call a -vocal minority-. In everything, as long as you offer a product, even if you have 80% positive reviews (like for PoE2), you'll always have some people grouping to complain extremely loudly about their ever unsatisfied needs ; much louder than any positive comments because people that like the game are either busy playing it, or won't ever feel the need to post a positive comment about it thinking the devs might surely already know they are doing something right. Drama is human.

Any video games forums is filled with 90% complaints. That's nothing new. Good devs know better than to listen to every whine and to filter the interesting feedback about X mecanics or Y monster to adjust the content accordingly. The devs that can't allow themselves to have complaints, giving in every single one of them by fear of bad publicity or by greed to attract as many players as possible end up exactly like Blizzard, doing empty games for all, without a soul or any form of engagement.

Game is fantastic so far, but I really wish they try to make the endgame more like the slower, more tactical/methodical gameplay in the campaign.

What's he point in having a separate game if both PoE1 and PoE2 are both just zoomfests where you blow up the entire screen as quickly as possible?

People who like that style of gameplay can just play PoE1.

Just +1

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SplashKing#6352 a écrit :

Game is fantastic so far, but I really wish they try to make the endgame more like the slower, more tactical/methodical gameplay in the campaign.

What's he point in having a separate game if both PoE1 and PoE2 are both just zoomfests where you blow up the entire screen as quickly as possible?

People who like that style of gameplay can just play PoE1.

I kinda agree but also disagree.

I liked the slow approach during the campain. But I'm also expecting to be blasting aways screens when I spent hours and hours of leveling and gearing up.

You get that kind of feeling of power from your character.

And I don't know how I would feel like if the endgame would be slow paced like the campain. Feels like I've made no progress.

Poe1 was always too overwhelming for me. When I was trying out the game I was just too confused everytime and stopped playing. Gave it another chance some time later and the same result. Did some more research, tried it out again but just too much for me.

Now that Poe2 is out and tbh very very great in my opinion, I don't know if I could go into Poe1 now and play it.