One Death Maps is a monumental failure.

If they keep 1 portal map over all it won't end well in the long run. The hardcore player base is not big enough to support the game. They need to make it a mode people can select if they want to play it.

I would honestly love to see GGG do a poll on all of they social media and see what the players want. I have over 30 people from poe1 that don't play at all. I have stopped playing after that last interview they did. They prove everything was just rushed and thrown together. They can't even take the time to give poe1 a new season or even give a date when we can expect something. I honestly don't even know if I would play it at this point.

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MikesLoverFromAnotherMother#7477 a écrit :

I have over 30 people from poe1 that don't play at all. I have stopped playing after that last interview they did. They prove everything was just rushed and thrown together. They can't even take the time to give poe1 a new season or even give a date when we can expect something. I honestly don't even know if I would play it at this point.

This is completely okay. I also have many POE 1 die-hard friends that are screaming for a POE 1 season. They are different games, with different design philosophies. If you want to blast with minimal risk and punishment, POE 1 is a great game, arguably better than POE 2. In the next POE 1 league, I am going to make the biggest glass cannon, with 6 portals as my main defensive layer (like I do most leagues). I obviously am not going to do this in POE 2.

They have said end-game was rushed, which again is okay. They are in early access with 200,000+ people doing testing for them to collect as much feedback and data points as possible. Feedback doesn't mean changing the vision and core mechanics of the game, it means tuning it whilst respecting the vision.

If you are unhappy, I highly recommend POE 1. It will be a great game for you, with minimal punishment.

I fell like something has to give at this point. If they want to keep systems the way they are then we should have at least more that one portal to use.

If we must have one portal then they need to change other things. Like reducing the damage output from things. The amount of one shot attacks are crazy. Or give buffs to armour and evasion.

Feedback :
I'm also in this camp - "As for me, I agree with OP and all those other players saying the same thing"

I have two friends who have stopped playing due to the 10% penalty and random deaths in an instant - one slow step forward - then 2 instant steps back....

They may not be GGG's target audience for the long haul I guess ?

ps - dying 6 times in pinnacle boss fight and loosing 10% each time also felt
a disincentive to try again any time soon.

Cheers and happy grinding.

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Spyk_au#7490 a écrit :

Feedback :
I'm also in this camp - "As for me, I agree with OP and all those other players saying the same thing"

I have two friends who have stopped playing due to the 10% penalty and random deaths in an instant - one slow step forward - then 2 instant steps back....

They may not be GGG's target audience for the long haul I guess ?

ps - dying 6 times in pinnacle boss fight and loosing 10% each time also felt
a disincentive to try again any time soon.

Cheers and happy grinding.

To be honest i dont care whether or not they allow more portals, its not a disincentive or make or break to me at all, it just makes me build differently from poe 1

Xp loss has been part of this genre for decades and is part of the challenge and serves its purpose very well, in fact to me this is one of the reasons that separates the good arpg's that people play for decades from the casual dumpster fire arpg's with barely 50 hours worth of playtime. Besides it is very much possible to make a build that can do most content without ever getting 1KO by trash mobs at all its just a matter of experience and knowing how to scale the right defensive layers. The only issue atm is that some defensive options are just way better than others which is something they have to address in future patches

Yes u are probably right, casuals was never the target audience this game is clearly made for the more hardcore audience which also tends to be the ones that stick around for years to come. But this is also part of the reason the game has longevity and replay value. Its not meant to be something u play for 50 hours and complete everything first try.

Well everyone who played poe in the past knows very well that taking on pinnacle bosses is dangerous especially if u havent done the fight multiple times and know every single mechanic, but this is also what makes it challenging. Besides i would never enter a pinnacle boss fight i havent done before without having just leveled my char or dont care for more xp on that char.

In the end my guess is they might give in on the 1 portal policy at some point but to me it doesnt really matter, i played poe 1 for like 15k+ hours and ill probably stick around for another 15k in poe 2 regardless of 1 portal or not

I find it funny that everyone has 10 friends who already quit because of something they don't like (portals, XP penalty)

Ok... I have 1000 friends who play POE 2 and will quit if you remove the XP penalty or make the game easier (portals, etc.).

You don't believe me? Well, prove that I lie.

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Waiden#9514 a écrit :

I find it funny that everyone has 10 friends who already quit because of something they don't like (portals, XP penalty)

Ok... I have 1000 friends who play POE 2 and will quit if you remove the XP penalty or make the game easier (portals, etc.).

You don't believe me? Well, prove that I lie.

Or the prophets aka ggg must do this or that or game will die (when everythong point in the other direction :D) . I tell YOU THINGS WILL END BADLY !!! :D

Okay. I don't care for forum nonsense I came here to voice feedback.
If you're not going to listen, and instead going to pretend that the feedback isn't valid, you will be ignored.

If you're sooo good at games, and PoE 2 is so easy, go play professionally, you must be good enough to make money so why aren't you?.
What are you doing wasting your time here replying to forum threads if you're such a "God gamer" that PoE 2 is a cakewalk and you can play it in your sleep?

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GnMQDMLmWZ#3336 a écrit :

Okay. I don't care for forum nonsense I came here to voice feedback.
If you're not going to listen, and instead going to pretend that the feedback isn't valid, you will be ignored.

If you're sooo good at games, and PoE 2 is so easy, go play professionally, you must be good enough to make money so why aren't you?.
What are you doing wasting your time here replying to forum threads if you're such a "God gamer" that PoE 2 is a cakewalk and you can play it in your sleep?

the valid point of your feedback aka some mechanic are broken and bug and while they exist 1death portal is to much has been adress by the team with the last patch, maybe not everything but most of it. So now what ?
2d part of your post is just nonsense.

Omg I just tried to jump on the game, run a map as my level 90 Witch with maxed our resistances, and some juiced up rare enemy boar sprinted at me, ignored my minions, which were filling up the entire screen and then stunlocked me to death. I have 75% resistances with 40% chaos resist. It wasn't even doing chaos damage.

I have 30% movement speed and I couldn't even walk away from it faster than it was moving AND attacking, and it's attack speed was extremely fast, in fact I would say most of the enemies in this game move and attack too fast, but this was even worse than usual.

Guess what? Map lost, 10% XP penalty (again, because people can't seem to read, the XP penalty is fine, that already cost me 2 hours of grinding right there) but to lose the map waystone (another hour or so at worst) and the 3 exalts and a vaal that went into that waystone (another hour) is just FUCKED.

Guess what? The devs aren't my friends. I could quite literally personally care less about a single problem they've made for themselves or a single issue they have to fix for their GAME. Because I, a paying customer, am having a terrible time, and so many other people I've spoken to are also. That's the point of this thread.

I don't give a fuck how much ire the devs have earned from shoehorning in their atrociously anti-player one death map system into the game far before they had the genius tier insight to balance said game. I don't care. At all.

Right now, from my perspective, I spent a LOT of money to support a game that will eventually be free anyway, because I thought the devs were a LOT SMARTER than this.

Baffling experience. Fuck this game right now. It's honestly in a bad state.
Whoever shipped this shit out the door in terms of balance should be fired. End of story.

Edit: You know, a huge amount of the problem exclusively is just the arrogance of the devs insisting that they have to have one death maps as a core, integral piece of the game. They don't. That should have been an added on feature. Players clearing YOUR game too fast using the tools that YOU gave them to use and mix and match with? Well, instead of making 99.9% of other players suffer so you can give the 0.01% of players more "challenge", you create a new tier of waystone, that you can't re-enter if you die. Call it a Soulstone or something, I don't give a shit. It's a videogame, use Rule-of-Cool and make it up on the fly. What even is the lore in this game? Aztec people? I don't think anyone knows.

I don't know why the devs decided to go this route, I think, in my opinion, it's just arrogance.
I've never seen another videogame dev team that is so unwilling to listen to player feedback anyway, so that seems to be the biggest problem with GGG, from my perspective.

Sure, some people enjoy that. I do not. I find it frustrating and borderline malicious.