Do physical support gems stack with Added Fire Damage?

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PackersFTW a écrit :

So a gem like Melee Physical Damage will be applied first, then Added Fire Damage (which bases it off of your physical).

(If you say "multiplication order doesn't matter", then you don't understand what I said.)

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Duskbane a écrit :

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PackersFTW a écrit :

So a gem like Melee Physical Damage will be applied first, then Added Fire Damage (which bases it off of your physical).

(If you say "multiplication order doesn't matter", then you don't understand what I said.)

I was under the impression that 'added as' and 'increased' always came before 'more/less'.

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PackersFTW a écrit :

So a gem like Melee Physical Damage will be applied first, then Added Fire Damage (which bases it off of your physical).

(If you say "multiplication order doesn't matter", then you don't understand what I said.)

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Zakaluka a écrit :

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PackersFTW a écrit :

So a gem like Melee Physical Damage will be applied first, then Added Fire Damage (which bases it off of your physical).

(If you say "multiplication order doesn't matter", then you don't understand what I said.)

Hmm. Let me try.

Order of operations is insignificant. The whole calculation occurs all at once.

AFD behaves as a conversion effect, which will definitely base converted damage off your total physical including the bonus physical damage from MPD.

Clear?

• Chin Sol unique bow (50-152 base physical damage, 25-50 base fire damage; close-range bonus does not apply)
• Blackgleam unique quiver (2-4 base fire damage, 50% physical converted to fire)
• Level 20 Burning Arrow (30% phys added as fire, 57% inc phys)
• Level 20 Added Fire Damage at 20% quality (39% phys added as fire, 15% inc fire)
• Level 20 Cold to Fire at 20% quality (72% cold converted to fire, 10% inc fire, 10% inc cold)
• Level 20 Weapon Elemental Damage at 20% quality (80% more WED, 10% inc WED)
• Level 20 Hatred (40% phys added as cold)
• Passive build: 80% increased elemental damage with weapons, 31% increased projectile damage

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ScrotieMcB a écrit :

1. Start with base damages.
2. Calculate "converts" and "adds." List the results of any such conversion/adds in their own category.
3. Apply "increased" (and "reduced") modifiers. Conversion/adds get all relevant increases (and reductions) for both their original and destination types.
4. Apply "less" and "more" modifiers; again, conversion/adds count as both types.
5. Sum all like damage types together.

EXAMPLE:

• Chin Sol unique bow (50-152 base physical damage, 25-50 base fire damage; close-range bonus does not apply)
• Blackgleam unique quiver (2-4 base fire damage, 50% physical converted to fire)
• Level 20 Burning Arrow (30% phys added as fire, 57% inc phys)
• Level 20 Added Fire Damage at 20% quality (39% phys added as fire, 15% inc fire)
• Level 20 Cold to Fire at 20% quality (72% cold converted to fire, 10% inc fire, 10% inc cold)
• Level 20 Weapon Elemental Damage at 20% quality (80% more WED, 10% inc WED)
• Level 20 Hatred (40% phys added as cold)
• Passive build: 80% increased elemental damage with weapons, 31% increased projectile damage

Step 1:
50-152 physical
27-54 fire

Step 2a (all conv/adds except Cold to Fire):
50-152 * 0.5 = 25-76 physical
50-152 * 1.19 = 60-181 physical-to-fire
27-54 *1 = 27-54 fire
50-152 * 0.4 = 20-61 physical-to-cold

Step 2b (all conv/adds including Cold to Fire):
25-76 physical
60-181 physical-to-fire
20-61 * 0.72 = 14-43 physical-to-cold-to-fire
27-54 fire
20-61 * 0.28 = 6-18 physical-to-cold

Step 3:
25-76 * (1 + .57 phys + .31 proj) = 47-143 physical
60-181 * (1 + .57 phys + .15 fire + .1 fire + .9 wed + .31 proj) = 181-549 physical-to-fire
14-43 * (1 + .57 phys + .15 fire + .1 fire + .1 cold + .9 wed + .31 proj) = 44-135 physical-to-cold-to-fire
27-54 * (1 + .15 fire + .1 fire + + .9 wed + .31 proj) = 67-133 fire
6-18 * (1 + .1 cold + + .9 wed + .31 proj) = 14-42 physical-to-cold

Step 4:
47-143 * 1 = 47-143 physical
181-549 * 1.8 = 326-989 physical-to-fire
44-135 * 1.8 = 80-243 physical-to-cold-to-fire
67-133 * 1.8 = 121-240 fire
14-42 * 1.8 = 26-76 physical-to-cold

Step 5:
47-143 physical damage
527-1472 fire damage
26-76 cold damage