[3.26] Ice Dancing God - Icestorm/Cyclone/CI - Viable For Everything

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Turbopuschel1#6531 a écrit :
https://pobb.in/Hzpzc7jHw3AC
Im looking for some feedback, im lacking some Damage and Defense. T16 isnt realy smooth.
Not sure what i should upgrade, but then again, im lacking Currency, i only have around 10d.


looks like you were choosing offense over defense and didnt follow the skill pathing

youre missing out on some good defensive modifiers. steelwood stance, missing additional int from the jewels....not enough def/res on the equip

theres a couple of things really

you only need about a div to upgrade a few things
Dernière édition par sekushiiandee#4336, le 15 juil. 2025 à 14:43:45
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H_Pill#6722 a écrit :
Wanted to chip in and ask for feedback real quick

https://pobb.in/IibB_fyH0wPQ

Mapping is smooth, pinnacles are a joke, and i've done some Ubers (struggled with Sirus tho), just wanna be sure i'm not missing anything. Currently using a frosthand merc that gives me 3000 ES and is practically immortal, somehow.

I'm aware the gear is could be much much better, just haven't gotten around upgrading stuff like the chest piece properly (also lmao @ those rings, pain).


whats your definition of struggle exactly? i always felt ubers had to have some struggle....especially if you try to single target cast with this build while having to avoid projectiles

i struggle with ubers right now because its a skill issue with me....too many mechanics and not enough time for DPS....but i always felt that was standard for ubers

lastly....are you trying to do ubers with the merc? xD cause that 50% health boost kills me during ubers
Dernière édition par sekushiiandee#4336, le 15 juil. 2025 à 14:48:08
Probably the closest thing to a Simplex Amulet that I will get this league unless I get an absurdly lucky streak of drops:



[will anoint it when I get back on tomorrow]

I wish the +# All Attributes was T1 but pretty great ammy for us as is.

Now to debate on whether I will try for a crazy Helical ring. I am less inclined to do so since I already have 2-3 crazy good Helicals on Standard.
Dernière édition par AngelOfPassion#3443, le 16 juil. 2025 à 21:29:53
Heya, love the Ice Dancing build and wanted to ask if other Ascendancies will perform as good as Trickster (or slightly lower) or if Trickster is God-Tier while the others are all Garbage-Tier

Read that the tankiness isn't really there, is this true?
Dernière édition par Gimurei#4911, le 17 juil. 2025 à 11:57:26
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Gimurei#4911 a écrit :
Heya, love the Ice Dancing build and wanted to ask if other Ascendancies will perform as good as Trickster (or slightly lower) or if Trickster is God-Tier while the others are all Garbage-Tier

Read that the tankiness isn't really there, is this true?

I'd say only Occultist are an option here.

You will get (Occultist):
-20% res to cold res with nearby enemies
15% more cold damage
Curses free explode - no need use gravebind to explosions on merc anymore, you can use it in another role, for rarity as example, or use str merc with Kingsmaker for extra crit
Free extra curse and hexproof enemies ignore - no need Whispers of Doom, extra points or annoint

You loose (for not choosing Trickster):
A lot of leech and overleech flow
Minus ~18-20 more damage (from Polymatch) and powerfull recoveries (without mercs gravebind) which is kinda offsets with "15% more cold damage on Occultist.
Minus 12-15k evasion (because you will use pure ES chest on Occul), ie chance to evade.
Minus Frenzy charges (without Swift Killer in will be not reliable) or minus 40% damage less reduction (Heartstopper), that's loss of ~20% more damage (on 5 charges) and 20% cast speed (faster ramping) or a layer of surviveability.

Overall:
Occultist has better clear with her explosions without merc and can curse hexproof enemies, but damage output will be lower than Tricksters and surviveability will be worse due weaker leech and loss of extra defense layers.
Dernière édition par lacnee#2250, le 17 juil. 2025 à 23:01:41
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lacnee#2250 a écrit :
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Gimurei#4911 a écrit :
Heya, love the Ice Dancing build and wanted to ask if other Ascendancies will perform as good as Trickster (or slightly lower) or if Trickster is God-Tier while the others are all Garbage-Tier

Read that the tankiness isn't really there, is this true?

I'd say only Occultist are an option here.

You will get (Occultist):
-20% res to cold res with nearby enemies
15% more cold damage
Curses free explode - no need use gravebind to explosions on merc anymore, you can use it in another role, for rarity as example, or use str merc with Kingsmaker for extra crit
Free extra curse and hexproof enemies ignore - no need Whispers of Doom, extra points or annoint

You loose (for not choosing Trickster):
A lot of leech and overleech flow
Minus ~18-20 more damage (from Polymatch) and powerfull recoveries (without mercs gravebind) which is kinda offsets with "15% more cold damage on Occultist.
Minus 12-15k evasion (because you will use pure ES chest on Occul), ie chance to evade.
Minus Frenzy charges (without Swift Killer in will be not reliable) or minus 40% damage less reduction (Heartstopper), that's loss of ~20% more damage (on 5 charges) and 20% cast speed (faster ramping) or a layer of surviveability.

Overall:
Occultist has better clear with her explosions without merc and can curse hexproof enemies, but damage output will be lower than Tricksters and surviveability will be worse due weaker leech and loss of extra defense layers.


Thanks a lot for the detailed answer! I go with Trickster then :D
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Gimurei#4911 a écrit :
Heya, love the Ice Dancing build and wanted to ask if other Ascendancies will perform as good as Trickster (or slightly lower) or if Trickster is God-Tier while the others are all Garbage-Tier

Read that the tankiness isn't really there, is this true?

I played the Ascendant(Scion) version. The cons is pretty much the same as lacnee mentioned, no overleech and less defensive layers.

As for pros:
-Ascendant ver has complete stun immunity and easy access to 2nd curse through Occultis ascendancy.
-It also has cheap and easy access 25% mana reservation through Guardian ascendancy which allows you to run the 4th and 5th auras earlier.
-1 extra jewel slot
Dernière édition par mrnb9x#4771, le 19 juil. 2025 à 15:30:44

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