[3.26] The dirty Scorpion-Tail|Herald of Agony| Chaos-Cyclone-Necro|The Arachnophobia Allstars 270M

Except steve builds do 60k depth in a current league and you are stuck while totally proud at 4k with access to legacy gear...

Noone cares about standard, my legacy items go to legacy and stay to rot there. Standard is just a joke.

You offering help is even a bigger joke, just from looking through your old posts you have no clue about this game. Do what you like most, go play on standard just please dont offer your "help" to new players.

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xatemdale#7874 a écrit :

Except steve builds do 60k depth in a current league and you are stuck while totally proud at 4k with access to legacy gear...

Noone cares about standard, my legacy items go to legacy and stay to rot there. Standard is just a joke.

You offering help is even a bigger joke, just from looking through your old posts you have no clue about this game. Do what you like most, go play on standard just please dont offer your "help" to new players.

The difference is Steve farms just depth. So he aims for azurite tier I&II, and the so called touch&go nodes, like city nodes and the random ones someone gets from the regular nodes. On the other hand I farm profit. So my build makes detours. A lot of detours! On top of that, I have to be able to clear those detours and also being able to kill the nodes in interest. Lets say Aul with crit damage and double damage and elemental epenetration. Lets says Molten cavities with extra chaos damage , attack speed, onslaught and steal charges. Something that steves build cannot do. How I know. I have that build too. I can also get far more technical. But it seems as I get more technical and analytic you get more and more bitter.

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Spacecom#5362 a écrit :

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xatemdale#7874 a écrit :

Except steve builds do 60k depth in a current league and you are stuck while totally proud at 4k with access to legacy gear...

Noone cares about standard, my legacy items go to legacy and stay to rot there. Standard is just a joke.

You offering help is even a bigger joke, just from looking through your old posts you have no clue about this game. Do what you like most, go play on standard just please dont offer your "help" to new players.

The difference is Steve farms just depth. So he aims for azurite tier I&II, and the so called touch&go nodes, like city nodes and the random ones someone gets from the regular nodes. On the other hand I farm profit. So my build makes detours. A lot of detours! On top of that, I have to be able to clear those detours and also being able to kill the nodes in interest. Lets say Aul with crit damage and double damage and elemental epenetration. Lets says Molten cavities with extra chaos damage , attack speed, onslaught and steal charges. Something that steves build cannot do. How I know. I have that build too. I can also get far more technical. But it seems as I get more technical and analytic you get more and more bitter.

As long as you believe your own lies great for you. Yet you are clueless about this build which this thread is about, proof is in your old posts where you think chance to poison increases virulence or that the hoa can actually self inflinct virulence stacks to name a few examples.

So if you want to inform the whole public how great you are DO make your own topic where you can spread your self image how shitstain steve sucks and you are the true delve hero instead of him and stop poluting this thread. Heck if youre nice ill even give you a free stash tab so you dont have to create old skool diablo 2 mule characters on your account

Those are all your thoughts, because that is your mindset. I do not think like that. I dont need an validation or glory. Steve's build is ment for something else. I am doing something totaly different in delve. Everybody specializes in something else. I just said, dont claim the build has gone to 4k delve. It is by proof a lie! At the current state of the game, it cannot. That's all I said.
Dont bait people belieing this is a delve build. It is not. Say whatever you like for damage. Say whatever you like about tankiness. I will not mess with those claims. But delve 4k, no, just no. Dont do that. Because those who know get at least puzzled, and those who dont know will get heavily baited. From this page and all the way back to the claim that this build is at 4k depth in delve, can someone delete everything and I wont mind at all.Really.
(and stop with the personal attacks, cant you see they dont bother me already? Just "read the room". You are only making yourself look bad when you try to belittle someone else.)

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Spacecom#5362 a écrit :

Those are all your thoughts, because that is your mindset. I do not think like that. I dont need an validation or glory. Steve's build is ment for something else. I am doing something totaly different in delve. Everybody specializes in something else. I just said, dont claim the build has gone to 4k delve. It is by proof a lie! At the current state of the game, it cannot. That's all I said.
Dont bait people belieing this is a delve build. It is not. Say whatever you like for damage. Say whatever you like about tankiness. I will not mess with those claims. But delve 4k, no, just no. Dont do that. Because those who know get at least puzzled, and those who dont know will get heavily baited. From this page and all the way back to the claim that this build is at 4k depth in delve, can someone delete everything and I wont mind at all.Really.
(and stop with the personal attacks, cant you see they dont bother me already? Just "read the room". You are only making yourself look bad when you try to belittle someone else.)

What do you not understand about making your own thread? Give this build legacy items and it can do 4k depths in standard, heck with legacy items almost every build you can think of can do 4k depths in standard. If someone is so nuts to try to this build to run 4k delve and waste time they will probably make it also. Heck you couldnt even kill anything with this build as you were clueless and had to resort to making this build suck more with your "improvements" while i easily run ubers t17 juiceds etc.

Keep believing in your lies, keep making mule accounts because you run with 4 tabs orsomething. Everyone plays like they want. Just dont post shit in a thread you have no clue about - as ive proven by my examples and everyone can read back in your old posts.

This is the last post ill make about it, you clearly dont get it, dont want to get it or lack the capacity to get it.

PoB for HoA-Hybrid-Necro is published!

| | | The Allstars balances out from CI over into Hybrid life+es | | |

I optimized and published a Hybrid Life+Es non-CI HoA-Pob-variation. 7% DPS are balanced into almost doubled recovery and +2k life.

With some tankyness granted by Merc (on merc: purity of ice, discipline, frost shield, use yourself instead discipline flesh and stone and low lvl vitality when you obtained the es+life on hit watcher's eye) and AG the build turned total overtanky also in PoE-Chaos-Content, as result the CI-keystone remains interesting, especially in Ultimatums or against U-Sirus, but is no longer needed.

I keep up testing, but with the merc-buffs Hybrid is in almost all content probably first choice for the Allstars this league.

The guided line-up you find in the spoilers "endgame" --> "To CI or not to CI", the smaller changes in sections watcher`s eye, rings, weapon, boots, faq.



With a good watcher`s eye the recovery is almost doubled, i.e. I obtain with my still unoptimized and medium geared 3.26-Scion in damagepeaks somewhere high above 15-25k health/life+es/sec against singletargets (3k es on hit, 3k life on hit, 3k es when 3x hit ghost dance, 5k molten shell, +Divine Shield, +700 es on block/spellblock, +Reg and Recovery in the Ascendancy, +2k vaal discipline, +2.5k / +800 life-flask) and 4k es/sec in the Merc`s frostshield. When wanted exchange cyclone cwc to storm burst cwc with more duration-support / or frost shield (and outsourced cwdt-tornadoes) for another additional 8k Es+Life-Bonus / sec on top while stationary channeling.

I outsourced Purity of Ice for 89% max-resis and Curses and some other reg, aoe and high phys-dr on a Wintry-Diacon-Merc too (... am still searching for a purity of ice+discipline aura-merc).

The recovery es+life on hit and on block is scaled up infinitive in high density multiple times more of course.



So even when the raw pob-ehp-numbers are much lower compared to the CI-editions, the ingame tankyness is simply totally immortal in 600% juiced T-16.5 and T-17 with this in maps almost doubled hybrid-recovery mechanic.

Almost unkillable.

I did as Hybrid-Scion lvl 80 to lvl 99.2 in ordinary poe-content when I remember correct with 7 deaths: in starter-gear in the lower level 80-92 3x against Dot/Pen/Shotgun-Mercs, and 1x killed by overjuiced T-16.5 wasteland-boss, then later lvl 92-99 better geared 1x by wisps 6000% buffed abyss-soul-eater in t16.5 ritual, 1x charged explosion of by wisps 5000% buffed maven-wittnessed lighthouse-boss, 1x against by altars fulljuiced Catharina in T-17 Ziggurat - and of course beyond the obligatory traditional deaths in 1000 suns of exarch and memory game of maven.

Only in juiced T-17 Ultimatums or against U-Sirus I would not want to miss the CI keystone 100% chaos-resis, in all other content until now the Hybrid is awesome attractive too.

Take a try!

https://pobb.in/3bdCXXcq

Super bloated PoB, lying about what ghazzy said so you can look better.
Guys, just skip this guy's build and find a legit one that hasn't been PoB warriored just to look very nice

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Djassie18698#2241 a écrit :

Super bloated PoB, lying about what ghazzy said so you can look better.
Guys, just skip this guy's build and find a legit one that hasn't been PoB warriored just to look very nice

Oh my guy, of course you do not not need to trust the pob, then trust perhaps all the videos.

Hey Djassie, congrats and thank you for your first posting in the poe-forums.

Or assumed you are really interested in your posted thematic, let`s do this drama and go now together in-depth to your posting?



--- About PoB and the differences between Ehp and Max hit taken ---


To me it seems that it is always the same and neverending discussion splitted between 2 types of PoE-builders:

Many PoE-Builders who focus on max hit taken hope that stacked recovery is not needed in t-17 damagepeaks or against fast hitters like exarch and u-sirus and that their life-flask will be always enough. It`s okay and they can of course kite their whole poe-map.

Many other poe-builders who use aegis aurora, evasion+ghost dance, recoupings or other sources of additional recovery enjoy their infinitive ehp and 90% max-resis in high density, but have often, compared to i.e. b.i.s.-crafted rare shields, in exchange 10-30% lower max hit taken numbers against phys-damage (... which are in this build compensated with stacked flat dr, stacked recovery, ghost dance, and high ar).



--- About the actual meta-shield question ---


As a different example and for an interesting comparision, let`s take also a closer look at the typical actual meta-unique, the popular alternative The Svalinn shield.
I tried it also often ingame in 3.25 Settlers and also in 3.26: In pob-community-fork The Svalinn pushs great up the ehp-numbers extreme high into millions too, like aegis aurora, but cannot display that it`s nondeterministic blockings remain permanent nondeterministic because of the ggg-engine, a huge difference and downside to deterministic evasion, 100% spell suppression and 89% ele-resis of the Allstars. So in T-17-density you will fast enterprise damage-peaks, in which also with the Svalinn`s lucky-rolling blocks, longer sequences with too many nondeterministic unblocked hits taken will occur, and that`s resulting into the random squishyness of the Svalinn.

Not to forget at last not least: The Svalinn is traded (today) for 108 divs, of course without implicit. For that currency you get (today) the whole completed Allstars-Build almost twice. With useable implicit you pay 350-1000 divs.

The Svalinn's small ward is on top after breaking for 2 secs down (... when you have not builded eg Palsteron's around +400 divs more ward-build. Or was that 3.25 build nerfed?).

The common-sense-community-conclusion, mine too, is that blockings (and also short skills like immortal calls or even much longer skills like molten shells), even when they are able to reduce needed recovery and multiply other defensive layers in maps, are, because of their rng, regarded only as additional layer of defences. Not more, not less.

That`s the reason why I still prefer Aegis+Taste of Hate and Aegis+Melding of the flesh over Svalinn or over rare shields.




--- About Max hit taken and your PoB-warriors ---


My actual community-common-sense pob-status is that pob-configs use enables flasks up and long-duration skills and disable short duration-skills and vaal skills down, the same way like Pobb.in or Poe.ninja handle the configurations. Enable flasks, enable Molten shell, disable Immortal call. Did it changed?

Further beyond the pob-configurations are individualized manually enabled and disabled for special conditions like Ubers, shotgunning, ats of holy-relic, etc. Did I missed something here? Then help me out one more time. There is a reason why these community-sites separate between ehp and max hit taken too.


PoB can also not display the over-stacked on block and on hit-recoveries of this build and then displays "infinitive" instead.

So please do me a fast favor and help yourself this time out and take manually the 3 clicks by your own to disable aegis aurora recovery on block, uncheck molten shell, frost shield and what you like further in pob for better displayed ubers-content and the awesome max hits taken-numbers of this build:

25k phys (scaled in the tanky edition with flesh and stone: 30-35k, with Kaom's binding on merc 43k, etc...)
147k elemental
40k chaos as hybrid, infinitive as CI

Sure, that are the max phys hit-taken numbers of other typical tank-builds, nothing really special. Only the ele-hit and chaos-hit taken are much above average of most other cheap tank-builds. So, that are also the numbers the themself called "the true no-pob users" prefer to use. I prefer them often also to calculate ubers-farming, but for sure not for high-density farming and T-17-calculations.
But yes, beyond this build here focus overall much more on overstacked recovery, flat dr, all the tanky keystones, dot-immunities etc. and is not only depending on the optimized max hit taken of other builds.
That`s here written, guided and explained in the spoilers "pob-configurations", "mechanics", "ehp / es", "faq" and "the ubers" in 5 central spots and dozens of times more I wrote it here in the forum, on youtube, in reddit.

Again, you can simply watch the HoA-videos here instead when you are not familiar with or afraid of pob-configs.
I really hoped that`s enough statements and explanations. But sometimes it seems to me also that this will be never enough for some guys who themselves does not stack a bit more recovery in their own builds.




--- The conclusion and Tl;Dr ---


PoB-community-fork cannot display all the different poe-content in one single ehp-number and also not in three separated max-hit-taken numbers. PoB only tries to simulate the ehp in an average ingame-situation with mixed medium hits, spells and damagetypes incoming, not less, not more.

Big Max hit taken will not safe you in the peaks of high density t-17 or against fast boss-hitters, and millions of ehp will not safe you in the peaks from Ubers or multiple juiced and 4000%+++ dark-woods-wisps buffed map-mods-mobs.
Better tanks use both.




--- About Ghazzy and about HoA-dps ---


I quoted GhazzyTV mentioning that HoA is more optimized in this build as in other HoA-builds, in a subspoiler of a spoiler in my summarizing of the Settlers-league. Or perhaps I also misunderstood his wordings half a year ago in the short discussion about HoA-builds on his stream with somebody for me unknown in the chat, I am not a native english-speaking-guy.
I quoted Ghazzy also more than sometimes that he dislikes and always ranks and rants HoA in F*-tier in his special minion-rankings, that was important to Ghazzy.
I also made a clarification in that settlers-league-post and personally clarified in the answer to Ghazzy's post.


Further Ghazzy wrote and talked about that he himself did not reached reliable higher HoA-virulences-numbers, the reason why he distrusts the HoA-pob, and that he thinks the damage in pob shown is not reached real-ingame.
I answered that on the other hand I myself do reliable produce continuous 100 HoA-virulences since 3.19 Kalandra and he shall use ball lightnings of orbiting or storm burst and he can check easy digitally+visually the continuous procced 100-110, in phrecia also 120-130 HoA-virulences. I explained how he can check and count it digitally in pob-style with max poison-stacks generated of used skills, deleting in pob irrelevant increased poison-duration, manually doubling all for the jewel the golden rule, finally adding a thumbed +0.2 sec for delayed fadings of virulences, or alternative more simply , conservative visually in all the HoA-Allstars-videos, concrete reliable real-ingame displayed in the green HoA-aura-icon alltime on every monitor.

(It`s your mysterious alltimes` first posting - so when you are not experienced with HoA-virulences and damage-scaling, high continuous numbers of them are needed to buff HoA above 100M into 200M, 300M or even further good geared into 1000M.)

When I misunderstood something here, help me out the third time.
I like his streams much, but to apology when there was a misapprehension for Ghazzy, I do not watch his content every day, sorry.

Further I love Ghazzy`s builds, but as far as I know he tried HoA last time 7 years ago as outdated Elemental-EE-HoA or something like that, with 60-70 virulences. Without high and big HoA-crits, without chaos-minion-poison, without alternate ball lightnings or storm bursts as HoA-virulences-generators, without buffed ar and auras, without newer league-mechanics, without the new tempestshield for qol of autobombing of HoA, without aegis aurora+melding of flesh-combination 90% all max-resis, without ghost dance, without tattoos, etc., and not with 100-120 virulences after the 10 leagues in a row buffed HoA and the also buffed defensive components of this build.
I.e. Ghazzy says often, not to quote him again, in his different own wordings, but to interpret his streams, that average lower budgets minion-builds rely on non-stop kiting and hiding behind their minion-meatshields as layers of defences, and he proofs it in his gameplay. That was one half of many reasons to optimize this build as full-tank with HoA as immortal minion, in opposite to other typical minion-builds out there.
When I overlooked something here about Ghazzy or when Ghazzy plays HoA again, please help me out another time and inform me.

And as I asked him what mirrors he meant in this default 60-80 div build with #5-passives voices for 50 chaos, he ghosted, probably he did not took a closer look and visioned #1-passive voices instead #5-passive voices.

That`s totally okay, Ghazzy has very often great and full optimized builds and does so much awesome videos for the poe-community, I follow him too and read many of his guides, but in this separate case that`s not that much competent about Herald of Agony.




--- About your first-time posting ---


Djassie, my respected real true all-pob+videos-objector-guy, one last time you need to help me out: Please post next time a bit more certain what you are meaning, perhaps when you are interested quote better other users - you mean ghazzy's and mine posting here on forum-page 111 probably - and try to be a bit less toxic, that would help a lot guys like me answering to you. Check out some lower troll-style too, it's never too late. Watch a guide about Pob also you can understand.

As you can read, these are in my opinion good and important thematics & questions in your posting. Okay, you catched me, I am in hope you are able to tolerate that I am myself personally with my limited poe- and hoa-experiences more at home located on the other side, in the "pob does the maths better"-team in the "pob don't lie"-house and beyond on the shores of the "trust your own eyes"-video-religion.

And to be honest, of course I guess you are not interested at all in anyway in thematics like that or in HoA or in pob.

There are every league 5-10 exiles like you who are complete failing to understand the build and it's mechanics, never read the guide or are unable to use the configs of the pob-app. I got used to it.

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Chromino#4813 a écrit :

There are every league 5-10 exiles like you who are complete failing to understand the build and it's mechanics, never read the guide or are unable to use the configs of the pob-app. I got used to it.

There is a point that one must stop yapping and step to the threshold of the realization "are people failing the build" or "the build fails the false promises and/or the high-end expectations of players"?