[3.15]Dragoon's DW Calling Lancer |High mitigation |"budget" 15M+ sDPS |99% of the Game Done|+Videos

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Red_Devil_666 a écrit :
It's completely weird yes. Everything going for a lot or... 2 days later, cheapo.

I've gotten a pretty cheap Saviour and now looking at a Paradoxica. Which stats should we prefer, just phys dps? When will it "out damage" a Beltimber?

PS. Still loving the build... getting better at it. Just need a 6L lionseye too, but those are really expensive


I've got a 'good' paradoxica and the difference between that and a cheap one isn't that great (We get quite a bit of flat just from the still then more off gear). A crit chance one may be better in some ways too.
Upgrading the Paradoxica would be one of the last things I would do (I got lucky with an unveiled one - I might actually be better selling it and investing it elsewhere)
Clear is fine. The reflections hit at different angles so you get a fair bit of coverage and then you just explode everything.
Chain might help clear but you would take a big hit on damage, going from a 7th link that has a more multiplier to going back to a 6l with a less multiplier.

If you wanted a pure clearspeed version then maybe, but then a deadeye would be better. And at that point there are better clearspeed skills anyway.

I've toyed with changing the chest, but keeping pierce from a talisman, but it's not really worth it.
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Carlovski a écrit :
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Red_Devil_666 a écrit :
It's completely weird yes. Everything going for a lot or... 2 days later, cheapo.

I've gotten a pretty cheap Saviour and now looking at a Paradoxica. Which stats should we prefer, just phys dps? When will it "out damage" a Beltimber?

PS. Still loving the build... getting better at it. Just need a 6L lionseye too, but those are really expensive


I've got a 'good' paradoxica and the difference between that and a cheap one isn't that great (We get quite a bit of flat just from the still then more off gear). A crit chance one may be better in some ways too.
Upgrading the Paradoxica would be one of the last things I would do (I got lucky with an unveiled one - I might actually be better selling it and investing it elsewhere)


Thanks for the info. And you'd say: upgrade from Beltimber to Paradoxica if you can afford it? Some which aren't too bad go for 60c or so, so that's not that much
Tried this build with few changes and my dps is ridiculously low. No idea why:C
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core770 a écrit :
Tried this build with few changes and my dps is ridiculously low. No idea why:C

i saw your char on heist and you are reading too much into critical damage like some other people
you actually deviated way too much from my build, there is a reason i am avoiding clusters and also you picked up swift skewering instead of forceful skewering and other things...
if you remove your entire cluster set and just put the nodes as i pointed in the guide, your damage gets a nice boost (5.2M -> 7.8M) with even higher crit chance, moreso slower proj is always better than normal GMP
if you level your gems and quality to the max your damage more than doubles, but at lvl 81 it is fine
see your build in pob with altered nodes here

https://pastebin.com/4TqBG8Te
if the pastebin bogus:
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you thought that low crit chance would be bad and tried investing more in that area, but now your impale damage is too low and the crit will have a lower base damage to multiply from

the sword nodes with iron grip gives decent base damage, then as they are pumped with impale your crits you give you the extra dps...this is a matter of balancing the build and math
the real problem is actually crit multiplier one of my ideas is using marylene's...another idea is using transcendent flesh in the left socket of the marauder area, at a much higher much cost btw
also, my build doesn't have enough stats to justify using crown of inward eye, you are better off with a rare helmet or even starkonja/rat's nest will be better
Dernière édition par Dragoon_Diver, le 24 oct. 2020 09:28:59
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Tried this build with few changes and my dps is ridiculously low. No idea why:C

i saw your char on heist and you are reading too much into critical damage like some other people
you actually deviated way too much from my build, there is a reason i am avoiding clusters and also you picked up swift skewering instead of forceful skewering and other things...
if you remove your entire cluster set and just put the nodes as i pointed in the guide, your damage gets a nice boost (5.2M -> 7.8M) with even higher crit chance, moreso slower proj is always better than normal GMP
if you level your gems and quality to the max your damage more than doubles, but at lvl 81 it is fine
see your build in pob with altered nodes here

https://pastebin.com/4TqBG8Te
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you thought that low crit chance would be bad and tried investing more in that area, but now your impale damage is too low and the crit will have a lower base damage to multiply from

the sword nodes with iron grip gives decent base damage, then as they are pumped with impale your crits you give you the extra dps...this is a matter of balancing the build and math
the real problem is actually crit multiplier one of my ideas is using marylene's...another idea is using transcendent flesh in the left socket of the marauder area, at a much higher much cost btw
also, my build doesn't have enough stats to justify using crown of inward eye, you are better off with a rare helmet or even starkonja/rat's nest will be better

Alright, ill give it a try:D
Ty for advice
Just wanted to say thanks for the guide! I was getting sort of bored of the league and wanted to try out one more build before I quit and im glad i chose this one. Really helpful to have the recommended upgrade order, wish more guides did that. Thanks again!
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Harrisun37 a écrit :
Just wanted to say thanks for the guide! I was getting sort of bored of the league and wanted to try out one more build before I quit and im glad i chose this one. Really helpful to have the recommended upgrade order, wish more guides did that. Thanks again!

i should be the one thanking for you playing my build, glad to hear that!
about upgrade order only i plus 2 or 3 others does this, i think. even when i do other people's builds i try to create an order of upgrade myself

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Red_Devil_666 a écrit :

Thanks for the info. And you'd say: upgrade from Beltimber to Paradoxica if you can afford it? Some which aren't too bad go for 60c or so, so that's not that much


@Dragoon: could you help me with this? I've gotten an awakener's orb from Sirus and sold it recently, so I have some cash, but wondering how much it will add to my dps and somehow playing with PoB doesn't make it easier for my decision. Or should I get the helmet enchant first?
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Red_Devil_666 a écrit :
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Red_Devil_666 a écrit :

Thanks for the info. And you'd say: upgrade from Beltimber to Paradoxica if you can afford it? Some which aren't too bad go for 60c or so, so that's not that much


@Dragoon: could you help me with this? I've gotten an awakener's orb from Sirus and sold it recently, so I have some cash, but wondering how much it will add to my dps and somehow playing with PoB doesn't make it easier for my decision. Or should I get the helmet enchant first?


To sum it up: if you are not happy with beltimber's damage in red maps then get a paradoxica, here's why:

The main idea of paradoxica is buffing your saviour's mirages, making their damage go from 50% to 100% (they gain the double damage mod), but "your" damage with it is roughly equal to beltimber's. In the end you get a ton of extra damage while your mirages are active, trivializing much of the endgame content. See in the gear choices that i made a rough sketch calculating this.

PoB doesn't show this interaction with "paradoxica-equipped-mirages" as it displays only YOUR damage, some people try to simulate the extra damage+mirages by "hacking/editing" saviour putting extra +100% attack damage in the item. I think i saw a recent video from "Dan the Crown" on youtube explaining this bit.

i recommend getting a non-corrupted paradoxica with 180+ pdps, but those 170 pdps paradoxicas are also fine. they usually have some extra phys, attack speed and quality on them.
after that i use the beast-crafting to make the quality to +30% to squeeze a little more dps, this recipe corrupt the paradoxica btw.
the only problem now is acquiring one: as i am typing this reply, i see some good paradoxicas priced at 8 to 9 exalteds, you can also try gambling veiled ones but chaos and ex ratios are kinda weird now.
sadly i wish i could say more, but getting paradoxica and WE with impale hits are the grinding part of the build.

Finally, try put a diamond flask in your flask belt, it makes things smoother in the end, almost mandatory with marylene's, cinderswallow is mostly useless without the crit enchant too.

almost forgot about the helmet enchant: they are optional but the +1 lancing steel projectiles are cheap in my opinion, but i don't know how tight you are in currency to make a decision for you. Pick one with eva and/or armour when you can.

if you are really close on getting a nice paradoxica then pick the sword first and then farm some currency. pick a helmet with the enchant and try to craft with fossils, essences to complete your build's stats
Dernière édition par Dragoon_Diver, le 26 oct. 2020 08:07:19

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