Conquerors of the Atlas was the third major endgame update to Path of Exile's complex endgame, following War for the Atlas (which introduced the Elder) and Atlas of Worlds (which introduced the Shaper) before that. However, unlike those two updates, we were not simply adding a story or augmenting an existing story, but progressing it, and examining the consequences of those events from an outsider's perspective. How did it come about? Well I'm glad you asked me!
We knew we were doing some endgame changes about 6 months ahead of the launch of Conquerors. What we didn't know was the scale of those changes, or what would happen to the existing Atlas and its associated storylines. And ExileCon was coming up quick, where we would be announcing not only this expansion, but the Metamorph league and the sequel to Path of Exile, which was also actively being worked on. We looked at our array of story elements, and at the current Atlas storyline. We considered replacements and changes to campaign elements, but ultimately, what appealed most was this idea that the community often echoes anyway: The Exiles have finally gone mad farming the Atlas. Now, it's one thing to have a cool hook like that. It's very different to turn that into a cohesive narrative. For one, which Exiles? It can't be the player's character, because the player's character is the one who has to go fix this mess. So it's a different set of Exiles, but they have to have access to the map device (and Zana). We spent a while working out the exact timeline of events. There were going to have to be changes (after all, for a lot of players, they WERE the Elderslayers!), but we wanted to keep them to an absolute minimum. If you read my post about integrating a league's story into the campaign, you might remember that we often bump up against the cyclical timeline of each league's launch. In short, it makes it difficult to 'progress' the narrative past the end of the campaign or maps. But with Conquerors, we were doing exactly that. We established characters fairly quickly. As is often the case, we knew what they would look like before anything else. Art tends to be months ahead of everything else in the pipeline. I wanted each character to stumble into a different type of madness, though early versions had them far more mad at the time the player found them than they ended up being. It was important that each character have a reason for their exile, even if it wasn't always spelled out, that set them at odds with Dominus and the Templar. It took a little while before the exact Atlas mechanics were nailed down, which meant that what those characters were doing, why the player wanted to pursue them, and how exactly the story developed was in flux for a while. When designing a narrative for an expansion like Conquerors, it is integral that the player's motivation line up with the character's motivation, which hasn't always been the case (I'm looking at you, War for the Atlas), and that can take a lot of time and discussion. And since we were also ramping up to ExileCon all this time, working on getting Path of Exile 2 into a reasonable state, including recording all of Act 1 for PoE2. It was... busy. Unfortunately, because it was so busy, not all of our storytelling tools were implemented in time. The journals, which filled in the gap in time between the slaying of Kitava and the player's first forays into the newly-conquered Atlas, were in the game files but wouldn't drop at the end of fights as they were intended to. This left the Elderslayers feeling a little more "mysterious" than we really wanted, especially as we had some exceptional voice performances for them. It also meant that Sirus, a character that featured prominently in the journal entries, appeared seemingly out of nowhere. This was made worse due to the cancellation of mechanics that would have him invade your map in place of one of the other Conquerors. Before I leave you, here's a fun little fact you might enjoy: Zana has a fairly wide variety of mission types, and has different voice lines for each one. She even has special voice lines for Shaper and Elder guardian missions, as well as the Synthesis unique maps. In fact, for Conquerors of the Atlas, we ended up recording about 21 pages of dialogue for Zana alone! |
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24.1.2018 [quote="Dro28"]wheres my fragment tab?[/quote]
(I thought that was a joke) 25.1.2018: GGG- Introducing the Fragment Stash Tab! |
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"Zana has a fairly wide variety of mission types, and has different voice lines for each one. She even has special voice lines for Shaper and Elder guardian missions, as well as the Synthesis unique maps."
Um...Where? I'll admit I 37/40ed this league about a month ago and tapped out, but when I was playing it, I recall her giving a generic statement about these maps for all of the above. Were these only implemented in the last couple of weeks? EDIT: I've located the actual voice lines, and they do a LOT to explain a lot of the chronological weirdness in game, but they're not enabled in game. GGG, can you get on that, please? Dernière édition par Rossmallo#5756, le 24 mai 2020 22:13:19
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Sirus invading maps would have been... interesting...
DIE! Le Toucan Will Return Dernière édition par sirgog#5608, le 24 mai 2020 22:03:28
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" Please, please, PLEASE! Add in more story mechanics back in. I have heard some of the cut voice lines from the Sirus dialogs and it's awesome and makes you think there was much more to it than we got in the final game. The encounter leading up to your meeting with Sirus in the middle of the Atlas with Sirus seems a bit bare bone, like some content right before it was cut due to time constraints. I really enjoy these story bosses, I enjoy the lore behind it. If you at all can, flesh out the Conquers of Atlas and Sirus especially. For anybody wondering what I am talking about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww8BinXZ5wY here you can hear some of that. Anyway guys I love the story, I love the lore, I love the music, I love the boss fights, but I really feel there is room to flesh them out some more. Sirus boss fight is easily the most exciting and fun fight in the game for me. I don't demand shitloads of mechanics and exposition on every encounter, but just a bit more developed and personal touch for the first time you are clearing your atlas each league it would be really nice and would not inhibit people mid/late league who want to just farm fast. Dernière édition par Ashur_Hawke#0129, le 24 mai 2020 22:15:19
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Well, from the start you made sure we know that the atlas can drive you mad. It was ok with that little "Still sane, exile?" from Zana and the very basic characteristics of the conquerors after finding the Elder and Rogue Exiles but damn, you really wanted to let even a 2 year old know what the atlas can do to you. Dialogue after dialogue of a sanity check from the conquerors gets tiring after a while. And its just that, dialogues.
On that topic, what made the Elder and Shaper so great were their mystique and their little encounters with us, the Exile. Like the Shaper stopping time and the Elder slapping shaper's guardians, or the name of the elder's arena: Eye of the storm can't compete with Absence of Value and Meaning. The conquerors just come and go, they dont really do anything but put currency and xp bags in the maps, also called packs. At the end they feel like downgraded versions of ourselves, the exile. As said in the article, the lore is incomplete. And I agree to using that word because I know you can fix the fragmented mess that we have right now. After all, you made Synthesis' lore too... right? " She did? I remember her giving generic information about the maps |
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