[3.11] Spellslinger VD Necromancer. All content. Easy and fast Sirus A8 kill. Wave 20 Simulacrum.

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Magillanica a écrit :

Yes I did try this and decided to switch back because of numerous reasons:
-VD and DD have 2 damage portions: one can be scaled with spell damage etc, and the explosion portion can not be scaled with spell damage. So when you use Anger, you will see huge improvement in the spell portion, but may overlook the fact that the explosion portion does not increase. So when comparing between +1 amulet and Anger, you need to add both the spell and explosion damage on PoB.
-When I tried it with fire pen Watcher Eye, the total damage increase is not good enough to justify losing other benefit of an influence amulet. You can Harvest craft fire leech on amulet as well, and augment 5% phys reduction is 100% chance. I think it is worth switching if you can get fire pen and increased fire damage Anger Watcher Eye, but last time I checked that's 50ex+
-On another topic about endgame optimization, I tried some suggestion from Reddit to use 1-link Raise Spectre and get high HP spectre. So when you Desecrate, you may get the same corpses as your spectre, which boosts the explosion portion of VD and DD. I test a bit in Sirus arena and there are a good amount of spectre corpses together with normal corpse. It's not consistent but I think it still boosts single target DPS. Here is the relevant post, which points out you want different Spectre types to increase the chance for their corpses to be included when you Desecrate.
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2637877/page/1#p22377943

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Magicmasterb a écrit :

What about using rotgut for your qs flask? U get frenzy charge out the ass so getting onslaught for a while wouldn't be a bad add on.

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Magillanica a écrit :

It may depend on the order of your gem link I think (not 100% sure). Let say if VD triggers first then 12VD and 0DD, if DD triggers first then 3DD and 9VD. Or something in between, but I think basically you get 12 in total between DD and VD.

I was thinking about this and awakened spell cascade before as well, but upon reading the forum and reddit someone mentioned the cap on cascade and I recognized this is such an important factor that is not stressed enough in guides.

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Magillanica a écrit :

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Soulstrike628 a écrit :

ah well i would need to swap colors on one of my sockets to get a 3rd green for hypo.

dumb question - if this build is aimed at fire damager, what does hypo help with?

You don't have to swap ele focus for hypo. I think if you spec into the Sovereignty wheel then you will not have problem with mana reservation.

Also since corpse pact from our ascendancy chilled enemy, basically hypo is a 39% damage multiplier (against chilled enemy). Ele focus is like 10% more, so if you can manage reservation then ele focus > hypo.

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ztnk a écrit :

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Magillanica a écrit :

It may depend on the order of your gem link I think (not 100% sure). Let say if VD triggers first then 12VD and 0DD, if DD triggers first then 3DD and 9VD. Or something in between, but I think basically you get 12 in total between DD and VD.

I was thinking about this and awakened spell cascade before as well, but upon reading the forum and reddit someone mentioned the cap on cascade and I recognized this is such an important factor that is not stressed enough in guides.

my feelings after tests: (i have vd+1 enchant)
1. vd+dd - base
2. dd+vd - feels like bigger explosions while mapping. now it's my default setup for maps.
3. vd+elemental focus - feel like it don't clear whole screen on maps but same time feels like a bit more dps singletarget...

it's only feelings. i don't know how to make correct test without damagemeter...

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Magillanica a écrit :

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ztnk a écrit :

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Magillanica a écrit :

It may depend on the order of your gem link I think (not 100% sure). Let say if VD triggers first then 12VD and 0DD, if DD triggers first then 3DD and 9VD. Or something in between, but I think basically you get 12 in total between DD and VD.

I was thinking about this and awakened spell cascade before as well, but upon reading the forum and reddit someone mentioned the cap on cascade and I recognized this is such an important factor that is not stressed enough in guides.

my feelings after tests: (i have vd+1 enchant)
1. vd+dd - base
2. dd+vd - feels like bigger explosions while mapping. now it's my default setup for maps.
3. vd+elemental focus - feel like it don't clear whole screen on maps but same time feels like a bit more dps singletarget...

it's only feelings. i don't know how to make correct test without damagemeter...

It's hard to test VD, since the cursor position also affects the number of balls spawned (for example if you target pointblank I don't think you will spawn the max number of balls). There's also overlapping explosion and whatnot. Just experiment around all the options to see which one works better for you. I wish PoE has some sort of dummy target in the hideout to test dps.

As for different setup, what I do like about VD-DD is that you have Vaal DD which melts bosses.

When you do VD alone (which makes use of the helm enchant better), you could try something like Herald of Ash. This may require swapping support gem a bit if you don't have enough mana unreserved.

Something like VD-SS-Cascade-Ele Focus-Inspiration - Hypo/Controlled Destruction leaves you >25% mana for Herald of Ash.

Herald of Ash could help dps and clearing a bit, and you also have an option of using Circle of Anguish/Lone Messenger for even more damage. Try to see if this compensates the lack of DD.