[3.13 UPDATED] gr0bbs | Poison Blade Vortex | Budget Viable | Endgame 50Mil+ DPS | Video Guide

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SabreWolf a écrit :
So between Skitter and Flesh and Stone which do I pick? (Have HoA, Malevolence and Despair)


I prefer Skitter but that comes with a significant cost of possibly needing an Enlighten Level 4 (assuming you already have Aspect of the Spider). You have to check this in your POB to see what fits with your mana pool.

If you can't afford the EL4, use Flesh and Stone.
Dernière édition par AndyLovesHisBge#5265, le 29 mars 2020 14:22:04
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gosumui a écrit :


Two points here allow to run malevolence, agony, flesh and stone, and skitter bots in Diadem helm with Impresence neck...


can you provide a POB link? When I tried to take the extra 2 points for mana reserved reduction, I could not come close to running all 4 of those in the helmet.

Those 4 add up to 135% mana reserved with out an Enlighten


edit: I now see your edit which talks about needing the correct stat on Ring of Nostalgia but I still can't get them to fit even with the best roll in mana reduction on the ring for HOA. Can you still provide a POB? It would be awesome to run 5 auras in the build.
Dernière édition par AndyLovesHisBge#5265, le 29 mars 2020 14:20:08
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AndyLovesHisBge a écrit :
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gosumui a écrit :


Two points here allow to run malevolence, agony, flesh and stone, and skitter bots in Diadem helm with Impresence neck...


can you provide a POB link? When I tried to take the extra 2 points for mana reserved reduction, I could not come close to running all 4 of those in the helmet.

Those 4 add up to 135% mana reserved with out an Enlighten


edit: I now see your edit which talks about needing the correct stat on Ring of Nostalgia but I still can't get them to fit even with the best roll in mana reduction on the ring for HOA. Can you still provide a POB? It would be awesome to run 5 auras in the build.


my gear is shite
https://pastebin.com/v5Nu9bjS

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I also played around with Grobb's final POB. You lose a chunk of DPS if you switch to skitter bots and reservation nostalgia ring. (unticked 34% shock from skitters)
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nvm im dumb shock is better
Dernière édition par gosumui#4178, le 29 mars 2020 14:43:46
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gosumui a écrit :


my gear is shite
https://pastebin.com/v5Nu9bjS


The link is not working. Can you double check that you copied it correctly?

I don't care about your gear, I just want to see the mana setup where you can support Aspect, Male, Skitter, FleshStone, and HOA all together.
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gosumui a écrit :


Two points here allow to run malevolence, agony, flesh and stone, and skitter bots in Diadem helm with Impresence neck. Need reduced reservation agony ring too


U want aspect of spider endgame not skitter it also reserves less mana

Here is current pob plan to drop tabula and grab perfect form, i can then gain a pt from phase acro for more hp.

https://pastebin.com/CaTm0xtt
Dernière édition par Rezechs#5670, le 29 mars 2020 15:05:27
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Rezechs a écrit :

U want aspect of spider endgame not skitter it also reserves less mana


The discussion should not be Aspect vs Skitter, IMO. Aspect is a must have.

The discussion for end game should be Skitter vs Flesh and Stone.

I feel like Skitter is more power than Flesh and Stone but it also costs more via mana (and as such a possibly more expensive Enlighten)

I believe the build guide owner said on stream that it is matter of preference.
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Rezechs a écrit :

U want aspect of spider endgame not skitter it also reserves less mana

Here is current pob plan to drop tabula and grab perfect form, i can then gain a pt from phase acro for more hp.

https://pastebin.com/CaTm0xtt


Thank you for the link.

This one is not working either for me (maybe it is my side that is the issue since this is two straight links that fail).

Are you using the Fork version of POB to create this link? I just want to rule that out.
I found three ways to get 5 auras (Despair, Mal, Hoag, Skitter, Spider) with Diadem and Impressence.

1. Enlightnen lvl 4.
2. Enlightnen lvl 3 + 4% less reservation from tree (as on prev img).
3. Enlightnen lvl 3 + Ring of Nostalgia with less reservation to Hoag.

First variant cost a lot, but gives as 2 skill points and opportunity to get two damage modes ring.

Other variants cost around 40-80c.
Dernière édition par ergopotes#5835, le 29 mars 2020 15:43:43
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ergopotes a écrit :
I found three ways to get 5 auras (Despair, Mal, Hoag, Skitter, Spider) with Diadem and Impressence.

1. Enlightnen lvl 4.
2. Enlightnen lvl 3 + 4% less reservation from tree (as on prev img).
3. Enlightnen lvl 3 + Ring of Nostalgia with less reservation to Hoag.

First variant cost a lot, but gives as 2 skill points and opportunity to get two damage modes ring.

Other variants cost around 40-80c.


you can also swap in Flesh and Stone for Skitter (for the 5th aura), which saves 10% mana if you don't want the cost of the Enlighten or the cost of the skills points/stat on Ring.

If I can afford El 4, I am going that way, but until then I will use Flesh and Stone in place of skitter.
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AndyLovesHisBge a écrit :
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Rezechs a écrit :

U want aspect of spider endgame not skitter it also reserves less mana

Here is current pob plan to drop tabula and grab perfect form, i can then gain a pt from phase acro for more hp.

https://pastebin.com/CaTm0xtt


Thank you for the link.

This one is not working either for me (maybe it is my side that is the issue since this is two straight links that fail).

Are you using the Fork version of POB to create this link? I just want to rule that out.


Yes

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