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vitto369 a écrit :

hello dude, i have read the changes about shock and still i dont think you reach the 60% shock effect by far stated in the pob (which is checked by the way for some build while you dont even have the 60% node). Jusk go check the wiki which has the current version of shock calculation. For Sirus the dps output is way to low to reach 18% shock effect.
edit: just uncheck the 60% you forcce in POB, you will see POB give you no more than 18% from skitterbots.

If you read my upper responses you'd know I don't have the node because I'm doing gem-tests. I very rarely use a standard tree from POB, i'm always testing different things and gems.

As for shock, I'll explain it again.

POB doesn't calculate your shock (you can google that), hence it just reverts to whatever default value it can find on gems if possible, as example if u have skitterbots it just reverts to that 19%, even though you obviously SEE in-game your shock is much higher on the bosses ( it's literally displayed under their names when u kill them ), which is exactly the reason they added the field where can input your actual shock. (which is visible on bosses since 3.15).

If you disable the manual shock field in POB, it reverts down to 19% shock.
Now if you disable the skitterbots gem, oopsy, now POB jumps up to 50%! default shock. So do you think you suddenly magically gained 30% shock by not using skitterbots? or that skitterbots LOCK characters at 19%? do you think anyone sane would use that gem then with crit builds? ... the answer is no:)

So I say again :D ... pob does not calculate shock.

And POB doesn't have to, since it's displayed IN-game since 3.15 directly under the boss name you're killing.

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So, can we get 60% shock vs Sirus/Shaper? absolutely!
I showed that in the previous leagues and in the current league, I'm already up to 56% vs guardians (they have less resist, but my gear is also FAR FAR from the POB min/max gear).

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I'll have a clip vs Sirus next time he is ready.

I'm not wearing a corrupted shavs. (biggest item in a min/max)
My weapon has 2 dead mods (should have aisling multi and +1 or lightning as extra chaos)
I only have 1 cluster and it's not filled out yet as I can't drop alira atm and i'm missing the 8% penetration notable and the jewel sockets from the adv tree, as I can't transition with my current gear/resists.

I have a mageblood, but my flasks are rolled defensively, so mageblood isn't much help on damage(shock). Currently only my diamond benefits in terms of raw dmg/being active (which it anyway would be obviously in a boss kill).

Shortly said, i'm far away from the min/max that the POB represents and i'm pulling off 56% vs guardians already and will get to 60% on bosses like Sirus by the time I'm even just in the neighborhood of min/max gear.

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oestergreen a écrit :

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vitto369 a écrit :

hello dude, i have read the changes about shock and still i dont think you reach the 60% shock effect by far stated in the pob (which is checked by the way for some build while you dont even have the 60% node). Jusk go check the wiki which has the current version of shock calculation. For Sirus the dps output is way to low to reach 18% shock effect.
edit: just uncheck the 60% you forcce in POB, you will see POB give you no more than 18% from skitterbots.

If you read my upper responses you'd know I don't have the node because I'm doing gem-tests. I very rarely use a standard tree from POB, i'm always testing different things and gems.

As for shock, I'll explain it again mate.

POB doesn't calculate your shock (you can google that), hence it just reverts to whatever default value it can find on gems if possible, as example if u have skitterbots it just reverts to that 19%, even though you can obviously SEE in-game your shock is much higher on the bosses ( it's literally displayed under their names when u kill them ), which is exactly the reason they added the field where can input your actual shock. (which is visible on bosses since 3.15).

With the 60% node I'm able pulling off 56% shock in my current week 1 gear vs the guardians. I'll have a clip vs Sirus from next time he is ready.

And i'm far from wearing the min/max gear in the POB, this is just start of week 2.

I'm not wearing a corrupted shavs. (biggest item in a min/max)
My weapon has 2 dead mods (should have aisling multi and +1 or lightning as extra chaos)
I only have 1 cluster and it's not filled out yet as I can't drop alira atm and i'm missing the 8% penetration notable and the jewel sockets from the adv tree, as I can't transition with my current gear/resists.

I have a mageblood, but my flasks are rolled defensively, so it's not that much help on damage(shock). Currently only my diamond benefits in terms of raw dmg/being active (which it anyway would be obviously in a boss kill).

Shortly said, i'm far away from the min/max that the POB represents and i'm pulling off 56% vs guardians already and will get to 60% on bosses like Sirus by the time I'm even just in the neighborhood of min/max gear.

apologies you are right

i would love to have someone able to do the calculations, i would like to understand how it is calculated.

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vitto369 a écrit :

as i stated somewhere, forgot those thread of hope/intuitive leap and go get some clusters, you will reach 4M4 instead of 3M3 (here : https://pastebin.com/T5z3d6fu). You can reach 5M if you get the right jewels.

I tried this setup and it severely screwed me on mana and resistances, let alone losing 600es.

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Gathrik a écrit :

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vitto369 a écrit :

as i stated somewhere, forgot those thread of hope/intuitive leap and go get some clusters, you will reach 4M4 instead of 3M3 (here : https://pastebin.com/T5z3d6fu). You can reach 5M if you get the right jewels.

I tried this setup and it severely screwed me on mana and resistances, let alone losing 600es.

I will try the thead of hope setup to see how easier it is, still i dont feel any issues with my mana. It is true i kinda struggle for my resist though. Anyway i love the move speed for clearing withthis setup

thanks for the great guide

Made this tonight, time to level the build now. :)

currently i'm level 89. 1 life (Ci), 4.6k ES, max resist for fire, cold, lightn.

i still dont understand why i keep dying in enclosed spaces, especially dungeons and rogue harbor contracts (where the mobs keep spawning like mad after i steal the contract item).

i've completed t10 rare yellow maps, but i simply can't do any mid-70s rogue harbor contracts (which are all practically dungeons layout anyway). i really wanna do contracts so i can convert the rogue's marker to some exalts.

below's my gear...

question 1) please suggest what i can improve on...
i was thinking of getting the shapered shield, but i lack the funds.

question 2) also do i complete the blue or red area first? thanks.

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Rapid900 a écrit :

currently i'm level 89. 1 life (Ci), 4.6k ES, max resist for fire, cold, lightn.

i still dont understand why i keep dying in enclosed spaces, especially dungeons and rogue harbor contracts (where the mobs keep spawning like mad after i steal the contract item).

i've completed t10 rare yellow maps, but i simply can't do any mid-70s rogue harbor contracts (which are all practically dungeons layout anyway). i really wanna do contracts so i can convert the rogue's marker to some exalts.

below's my gear...

question 1) please suggest what i can improve on...
i was thinking of getting the shapered shield, but i lack the funds.

question 2) also do i complete the blue or red area first? thanks.

I don't see any Pierce on your gear or tree, probably the most important part of the guide

> 👉 If you don't have a pierce lab enchant(helmet), add pierce as a jewel or a temporary talisman - you get a jewel in act 5 with +1 pierce.

You can get Pierce on a jewel, a glove implicit or a talisman for cheap.

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Archnemesis/abnOdMfe

The gloves you're using now don't make any sense and are easily replaceable.

The red area will give you spell block and the blue depends on what jewel you're putting up there.

I'd probably say blue gives you better bang for your buck and you don't really need the spell block until you're deeper into your atlas and have the es on block shield.

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livejamie a écrit :

I don't see any Pierce on your gear or tree, probably the most important part of the guide

> 👉 If you don't have a pierce lab enchant(helmet), add pierce as a jewel or a temporary talisman - you get a jewel in act 5 with +1 pierce.

You can get Pierce on a jewel, a glove implicit or a talisman for cheap.

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Archnemesis/abnOdMfe

The gloves you're using now don't make any sense and are easily replaceable.

The red area will give you spell block and the blue depends on what jewel you're putting up there.

I'd probably say blue gives you better bang for your buck and you don't really need the spell block until you're deeper into your atlas and have the es on block shield.

i got the jewel, idk why i can't link it here.







i just blindly followed the guard skill that author socketed in his shoes. but shoes with those sockets and links were kinda expensive, so i socketed in cheap gloves instead lol.

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Gathrik a écrit :

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vitto369 a écrit :

as i stated somewhere, forgot those thread of hope/intuitive leap and go get some clusters, you will reach 4M4 instead of 3M3 (here : https://pastebin.com/T5z3d6fu). You can reach 5M if you get the right jewels.

I tried this setup and it severely screwed me on mana and resistances, let alone losing 600es.

i compared the your build and mine a bit and i think i got the difference.
Oestergreen build is running a low level clarity.

On my side i am running a level 17 clarity and i have no issue. I also dont use bear trap or sigil anymore. I have tested that using sigil and arcanist brand burns all your mana and a low level clarity cant make up for it to spam traps. Lots of mana and mana regen surely helps in that case.

I have no issue because at some point you dont need no extra damage anymore to kill bosses, so i ditched sigil, bear trap and kept only arcanist brand. I am just running a level 17 clarity, 80 mana pool and spamming traps like hell (with +40% speed from clusters) at ease.

Anyway, in your original post you said you are aiming oestergreen damage threshold, keep in mind that since Oestergreen is not using swift assembly like your, the damage threshold is doubled.