[3.21] 🌿Ultimate Claw Poison Pathfinder - Untouchable Viper - Molten Strike update by FEL
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Touch of cruelty - 10% chance to hinder while it does look good, it can't be that big, by the time mob is hindered, it is dead nevertheless. Only applicable to bosses
Unspeakable gifts - do we really take advantage of explodymod?
Wicked pall - seems like there isn't alternative to this one, #1 mod for us probably
Comparisson:
Misery everlasting 25% increased Despair Curse Effect should give another -7 chaos resist to enemies cursed, not counting flat chaos gained and % increased damage over time, it would already be better from cruelty and gifts, in my opinion.
Unholy grace gives another %inc chaos damage along with that sweet attack speed, that we simply can not pass on.
You´re right about that, but so far I didn´t bother to create a new one. I was much more referring to Yalpes BiS-Cluster.
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#2 my old ring had poison essence mod, but after playing in pob, I will argue that 34% increased chaos damage essence and hunters 22% increased poison damage together, gives more than having only 40% increased poison damage single mod, NOT counting the duration half-mod. Duration comes in pack. So, a legit one too
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Duely noted, you´re right about that. Oversaw that it´s chaos and additional poison mods. Then again, just as a tip: With the 40% inc mod you´re coming pretty close and you can open another slot for it, AND you don´t need the hunter-mod anymore which basically opens implicits. That´s my ring, thats why I am counting that option in general as the better approach:
I have better gear than you. I have your dps without 2 void fangs or even more. Don't get us wrong but that self entintlement is a little cringy cause everyone here worked their asses for their build and claiming that is plain wrong. Two of the reasons that is not correct is your jewels and your life.
You have only 3.5k I am fairly certain you die to stuff with that amount of HP if they hit you first(especially without any LgoH) or you do not do hard content! You have 3ple attack speed on jewels with a chaos mod! Like, that's greedy even for me and your cluster decision is a little ouch!
Your helmet is clearly not minmaxed your boots also. Both me and vennto have better helmets and boots!
The build resolves around really strong defenses and neglecting them is plain wrong! I can understand your excitement to a certain extent BUT I am fairly certain we can all build a glass cannon if we wanted to!
Sorry, gotta defend myself here
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First of all, I did not claim to have best gear. I claim I hold #1 dps spot on poe.ninja ladder, which I do, with fully functional build. Like Vennto already mentioned, and I agreed, 90m shaper dps is incredibly unrealistic and not achievable, for reasons stated in previous posts.
Second, I die, when I make a mistake. Not because of 3.5k hp, but because of not buffing or flasking, or not dodging stuff. Remove 2 extra frenzy charges, add them to 4 life nodes on tree and I'm back to comfortable ~4.2k hp where even if i make a mistake, it has to be a chain of mistakes in order for something to kill me. If I weren't doing highest content possible, there would be no way of farming enough currency for all the upgrades, as I am not a fan of flipping, crafting for profit, or doing white canyons over and over again.
Third, looking at your build sir, you might be 100% right on having better gear, as you have some sweet implicits on your synth rings, I am jealous abit.
Fourth, I tend to avoid maps where I can't leech life or mana. That is the only mod that's causing me trouble.
Fifth, what is more greedy is not having insta life flask my man. But I guess with your LgoH it is not needed. I will sacrifice my 5th flask (you got quicksilver, cmon) for the life flask.
And finally, sure. You got better helmets, props to you. that fortify effect boost and more %phys reduction while focused sure does sound sweet.
I don't think that's the case with the boots though.
Again, and I can't stress this enough, I don't claim I have the best gear. I claim I hold the #1 spot on dps ladder on poe.ninja, while still having overall very good and functional defence that CAN do all content. Now that I think about it, actually not sure if I could deep delve to 1.5k with that raw hp, o well.
I know people worked hard to make their gear, and to make this build as best as it can possibly be, and not to take away from them, I did too on my own.
After seeing the spot on a ladder, wanted to brag a little and show off my work. If that is cringy to you, well, sorry that you feel that way.
Just tested on my setup. If I change to your cluster I lose 7.5% dps but I gain 2 skill points. If you put in 4% increased damage instead of life you get 11.6% more.
Hey, thanks for stopping by. For sure I will test with your clusters later :)
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Duely noted, you´re right about that. Oversaw that it´s chaos and additional poison mods. Then again, just as a tip: With the 40% inc mod you´re coming pretty close and you can open another slot for it, AND you don´t need the hunter-mod anymore which basically opens implicits. That´s my ring, thats why I am counting that option in general as the better approach:
Oh, I have to agree with you on that one then. That ring of yours does look spicy, will test it later also. But it will be hard to say goodbye to my ring :(
I have better gear than you. I have your dps without 2 void fangs or even more. Don't get us wrong but that self entintlement is a little cringy cause everyone here worked their asses for their build and claiming that is plain wrong. Two of the reasons that is not correct is your jewels and your life.
You have only 3.5k I am fairly certain you die to stuff with that amount of HP if they hit you first(especially without any LgoH) or you do not do hard content! You have 3ple attack speed on jewels with a chaos mod! Like, that's greedy even for me and your cluster decision is a little ouch!
Your helmet is clearly not minmaxed your boots also. Both me and vennto have better helmets and boots!
The build resolves around really strong defenses and neglecting them is plain wrong! I can understand your excitement to a certain extent BUT I am fairly certain we can all build a glass cannon if we wanted to!
Sorry, gotta defend myself here
Spoiler
First of all, I did not claim to have best gear. I claim I hold #1 dps spot on poe.ninja ladder, which I do, with fully functional build. Like Vennto already mentioned, and I agreed, 90m shaper dps is incredibly unrealistic and not achievable, for reasons stated in previous posts.
Second, I die, when I make a mistake. Not because of 3.5k hp, but because of not buffing or flasking, or not dodging stuff. Remove 2 extra frenzy charges, add them to 4 life nodes on tree and I'm back to comfortable ~4.2k hp where even if i make a mistake, it has to be a chain of mistakes in order for something to kill me. If I weren't doing highest content possible, there would be no way of farming enough currency for all the upgrades, as I am not a fan of flipping, crafting for profit, or doing white canyons over and over again.
Third, looking at your build sir, you might be 100% right on having better gear, as you have some sweet implicits on your synth rings, I am jealous abit.
Fourth, I tend to avoid maps where I can't leech life or mana. That is the only mod that's causing me trouble.
Fifth, what is more greedy is not having insta life flask my man. But I guess with your LgoH it is not needed. I will sacrifice my 5th flask (you got quicksilver, cmon) for the life flask.
And finally, sure. You got better helmets, props to you. that fortify effect boost and more %phys reduction while focused sure does sound sweet.
I don't think that's the case with the boots though.
Again, and I can't stress this enough, I don't claim I have the best gear. I claim I hold the #1 spot on dps ladder on poe.ninja, while still having overall very good and functional defence that CAN do all content. Now that I think about it, actually not sure if I could deep delve to 1.5k with that raw hp, o well.
I know people worked hard to make their gear, and to make this build as best as it can possibly be, and not to take away from them, I did too on my own.
After seeing the spot on a ladder, wanted to brag a little and show off my work. If that is cringy to you, well, sorry that you feel that way.
As far as boots go you need the +2 to chaos gems for to link your withering step setup there and get all 15 stacks in one tap.
As for my movement flask I use it to quickly clear maps I only use life flask on sirus/ uelder/ the feared. I literally do everything else deathless without it! It's a personal preference for consistency while farming nothing more! I would never say you dont need a life flask!
Dernière édition par Orestiada#7832, le 15 mars 2021 à 10:39:32
Just tested on my setup. If I change to your cluster I lose 7.5% dps but I gain 2 skill points. If you put in 4% increased damage instead of life you get 11.6% more.
Hey, thanks for stopping by. For sure I will test with your clusters later :)
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Duely noted, you´re right about that. Oversaw that it´s chaos and additional poison mods. Then again, just as a tip: With the 40% inc mod you´re coming pretty close and you can open another slot for it, AND you don´t need the hunter-mod anymore which basically opens implicits. That´s my ring, thats why I am counting that option in general as the better approach:
Oh, I have to agree with you on that one then. That ring of yours does look spicy, will test it later also. But it will be hard to say goodbye to my ring :(
If you do try it, make sure you use at least 10 skill points. I think I removed Heart of Oak to afford it. But that might throw off your stats. That's why I have T2+attribs on my ammy.
As far as boots go you need the +2 to chaos gems for to link your withering step setup there and get all 15 stacks in one tap.
While that might be true, having 12 on a tap and other 3 inflicted by the 3 protectors is good enough for me. So no, not needed for build to have 15 wither stacks. Also my herald has a chance to inflict wither on hit, but that is really not necessary, but it proves my point even more.
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As for my movement flask I use it to quickly clear maps I only use life flask on sirus/ uelder/ the feared. I literally do everything else deathless without it! It's a personal preference for consistency while farming nothing more! I would never say you dont need a life flask!
So now we got to a point where you mention personal preference, funny.
Btw, I would argue that even with t1 movespeed on boots, 10% enchant on them, and elusive buff with quicksilver on top, I am still faster moving across the map with whirling blades with the amount of attack speed I have. Not 100% sure, but I would argue about it.
I am close to not answering your posts anymore, as you don't provide any helpful critique, looks like you are just comparing stuff without thinking.
Dernière édition par indigoBot#3734, le 15 mars 2021 à 11:03:23
So now we got to a point where you mention personal preference, funny.
Btw, I would argue that even with t1 movespeed on boots, 10% enchant on them, and elusive buff with quicksilver on top, I am still faster moving across the map with whirling blades with the amount of attack speed I have. Not 100% sure, but I would argue about it.
I also agree on T1 speed not being required. Can I ask you something? Did you get that weird interaction where Whirling Blades triggers twice? I've had that happen quite a lot past 10 attacks per second and its soooooooooo annoying. Just wondering if I'm alone.
So now we got to a point where you mention personal preference, funny.
Btw, I would argue that even with t1 movespeed on boots, 10% enchant on them, and elusive buff with quicksilver on top, I am still faster moving across the map with whirling blades with the amount of attack speed I have. Not 100% sure, but I would argue about it.
You said that I am using ms flask to point something about my gear, and I give a VERY obvious reasoning why that is! Are you going to ask me why I have a portal gem also? XD
I also agree on T1 speed not being required. Can I ask you something? Did you get that weird interaction where Whirling Blades triggers twice? I've had that happen quite a lot past 10 attacks per second and its soooooooooo annoying. Just wondering if I'm alone.
What I am doing is simply popping plague bearer then withering step and run through the map. For my setup and how I farm my maps it gives me efficiency. If I can run 3 maps while one runs 1 that's a bonus.
Yes I did encounter that whirling blades bug but that was like a week ago only once or two never again.
Dernière édition par Orestiada#7832, le 15 mars 2021 à 11:13:49
I also agree on T1 speed not being required. Can I ask you something? Did you get that weird interaction where Whirling Blades triggers twice? I've had that happen quite a lot past 10 attacks per second and its soooooooooo annoying. Just wondering if I'm alone.
Yeah, sometimes, but not that common. I also had a bug in one map where whirling through stopped working, I would just whirl in place. Only happened once though.
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You said that I am using ms flask to point something about my gear, and I give a VERY obvious reasoning why that is! Are you going to ask me why I have a portal gem also? XD
I also use portal gem. [Removed by Support] I'm not answering your posts anymore. Good luck with everything.
Dernière édition par JC_GGG#0000, le 15 mars 2021 à 11:22:13
