[3.21] Vatinas' Spiders + HoP Guardian - CI, 70K armour, 1400 ES on block, millions of DPS

lvl 93, 6.4 k es, 44k armor.
shaper and elder are ok.
uber elder , could not kill them.
sirius died twice but i died too.

overall it's good for the investment. Pretty disappointed with uber elder, it might be that my stats are too low, maybe if i had 7+ k es it would be easier
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Iku a écrit :
lvl 93, 6.4 k es, 44k armor.
shaper and elder are ok.
uber elder , could not kill them.
sirius died twice but i died too.

overall it's good for the investment. Pretty disappointed with uber elder, it might be that my stats are too low, maybe if i had 7+ k es it would be easier


An Empower level 4 gem in chest might help you.
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BowWizard a écrit :
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Iku a écrit :
lvl 93, 6.4 k es, 44k armor.
shaper and elder are ok.
uber elder , could not kill them.
sirius died twice but i died too.

overall it's good for the investment. Pretty disappointed with uber elder, it might be that my stats are too low, maybe if i had 7+ k es it would be easier


An Empower level 4 gem in chest might help you.


will it really help?
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Iku a écrit :
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BowWizard a écrit :
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Iku a écrit :
lvl 93, 6.4 k es, 44k armor.
shaper and elder are ok.
uber elder , could not kill them.
sirius died twice but i died too.

overall it's good for the investment. Pretty disappointed with uber elder, it might be that my stats are too low, maybe if i had 7+ k es it would be easier


An Empower level 4 gem in chest might help you.


will it really help?


For DPS yes. Using my build as an example a Level 3 Empower gives me around 508k per HoP. If a level 4 is slotted in DPS goes to around 570k so it's a big difference. It does nothing for ES or Armour but if you have more DPS and snuff the bosses it won't matter. Play with it in POB and see the difference.

I have tested Shaper with around 6.8k ES and 508k DPS and another with 6.3k ES and 570k DPS. The lower ES and more DPS is better, though I still died in both because it takes a long time to wear him down. Maven isn't an issue till that stupid memory game (the second one with 6 in it). I'm deathless till then - then I'm dead :-).
Dernière édition par BowWizard#1239, le 11 avr. 2022 à 09:10:16
I often find myself without spiders so im trying to understand the trigger mechanic and why they aren't refreshing.

When the spiders kill something, do they refresh themselves?

When the sentinels kill something do they trigger the spiders?

or is the only way to trigger the spiders is when I kill something myself?
Dernière édition par nitetime#2455, le 13 avr. 2022 à 13:09:01
First off thanks for the awesome build. Im getting some of my final items and levels i need to finish the build.
Is this helmet worth working with? i got a lucky chaos spam and wondering if its worth crafting on and what i should do. I don't have allot of experience with crafting
very tanky as I said. Had no time to play, going to get empower +4 now and did those 2 helms today, hope it's going to boost me up a bit and help me kill Uber Elder.


Dernière édition par Iku#5715, le 13 avr. 2022 à 17:35:34
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nitetime a écrit :
I often find myself without spiders so im trying to understand the trigger mechanic and why they aren't refreshing.

When the spiders kill something, do they refresh themselves?

When the sentinels kill something do they trigger the spiders?

or is the only way to trigger the spiders is when I kill something myself?


It's your character killing plus the Fang that create spiders.

Sentinels can't trigger spiders since they do not have the Fang (theoretically an AG could summon them if you equipped it with a Fang and they killed an enemy. That could maybe "auto spawn" spiders but don't know how reliable that would be)

Spiders are on a timer of about 73 seconds. If you aren't killing anything by then they will expire on you and you have to use desecrate and writhing jar to summon new ones.
Maybe it is noob question but How to get Belt enchantment?
"Enemies maimed by you take 8% increased physical damage over time"
I'm tried to Google and see that this is Enchantment but doesnt know how to get it?
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Vladjkaaa a écrit :
Maybe it is noob question but How to get Belt enchantment?
"Enemies maimed by you take 8% increased physical damage over time"
I'm tried to Google and see that this is Enchantment but doesnt know how to get it?


Here's the link to Belt enchantments on the wiki. You need a special kind of lab fragment (not the vanilla Gift to the Goddess fragment).

https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Dedication_to_the_Goddess

The fragment will randomly drop in the lab trials in story zones or maps. You then go to the Aspirants plaza and place the fragment in the portal there to access the correct labyrinth (Eternal Labyrinth only) to get a belt enchant. There's a 1 in 16 chance you will get the enchant you want so you may need multiple runs to get it unless you get lucky and get it first time. You can also buy these fragments if you need to do multiple runs - https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Archnemesis/9dyZbLyTK

Note: There is a Atlas passive tree on the right hand side of the tree that gives you 20% chance to drop the more exotic fragments (just search lab). It's worth taking. You can respec out of it after you have your enchants.

BTW there is also a gloves enchant you might want to consider - https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Commandment_of_the_Grave.
If you put this on a pair of corrupted Shaper's Touch you can spawn a few extra minions. To enchant corrupted items you will need a Tainted Blessing orb so make sure you have one if you are going to do this enchant as well (it's a 1 in 15 chance but you only need to run the nornal Gift to the Goddess Eternal lab for this enchant)


For the helmet enchantment you can just run normal Eternal labyrinth and keep your fingers crossed to the get the enchantment sooner rather than later.
Dernière édition par BowWizard#1239, le 17 avr. 2022 à 11:18:07

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