lvl 21 gem recipy

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ACGIFT a écrit :
To be honest, I don't think we need any more deterministic method to acquire level 21 gems. And this is coming from someone who has yet to actually succeed at producing one of these; RNG has not been kind to me there. (I'm the one on the other side of the equation that balances out the OP's experience suggesting it's BETTER than it is)

Overall, when compiled together, what is TECHNICALLY a form of nested RNG are rolls that are pretty generous, to where it's just a 12.5% chance. And if you go serious in a league, and remember to keep leveling 6 gems in your alternate slots at all times. (even easier what with the brightbeak+shield charge nerf; you're no longer using 3 sockets for that!)

Truth be told, I probably would've had at least a 21 or two had I just Vaal'd ALL of my 20/20 gems. Mostly, it was that I was saving them for the Lapidary Lens, as a mere 21/20 wasn't worth as much on Incursion due to the prospect for 21/23s and 21/20 Vaal gems.

This shouldn't even be an issue for SSF players, given they can corrupt this stuff themselves. For trading-league players... A handful of exalts will buy you pretty much any gem available.

Adding a recipe would just be needless complication. It violates the basic rules of balance. (of which Rory ham-fistedly explained half of)

Yes, making it expensive would make sure there's the "Why not" answer (aka "flaw" according to Rory) but would leave the "Why should you do this?" question without a satisfactory answer.

In short, it'd just create a noob trap. There's no good reason to add it to the game.


hi, have u read? i lvl 26 gems hit 98 and only 1 proc at very end 1 of 26 gems
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Emperor_home a écrit :
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DivineChampion a écrit :
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Emperor_home a écrit :
Or add some kind of way to invest currency (100-200 or even 500 vaal) to get a guarantee lvl 21 gem.

Later in league 500 vaals > 500 chaos and roughly > 5 ex. With 5 ex you can purchase any lvl 21 gem.

Hello! have u read??? on hc and ssf there is not much lvl 21 gems on sale

Didn't know you are on SSF.

I have to say it will be hard to find 500 vaals on SSF.
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- The game isn't balanced around SSF, and it should never be ( and will never be hopefully )
- a lvl 21 gems is merely a bonus over a lvl 20 gems ( yes, even purity of whateverelement )
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
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Emperor_home a écrit :
hi, have u read? i lvl 26 gems hit 98 and only 1 proc at very end 1 of 26 gems

I've leveled more than 26 gems through Incursion and only got partly through 97.

And I DEFINITELY had failed to acquire 500 vaal orbs.

The lack of 21s is just unlucky RNG. The "guaranteed" method would just still be a noob trap. But thanks for quoting an entire large post to reply with a single sentence.

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Fruz a écrit :
- The game isn't balanced around SSF, and it should never be ( and will never be hopefully )

I'd qualify this. ITEM DROPS shouldn't be balanced around GUARANTEEING easy access to everything for SSF.

Something like a league's challenge list should most certainly be balanced around SSF players, and avoid calling for stuff that mandates trading for them. (e.g, 100 Abyssal Depths)

Simply put, if it's something that's ALSO horrendously painful for trading-league players to handle, it'd be even worse for SSF, and should be balanced out. It's also why we have stuff like buying skill gems from vendors since 2.0.0, and a decent selection of critical threshold jewels available as quest rewards.
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ACGIFT a écrit :

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Fruz a écrit :
- The game isn't balanced around SSF, and it should never be ( and will never be hopefully )

I'd qualify this. ITEM DROPS shouldn't be balanced around GUARANTEEING easy access to everything for SSF.

Something like a league's challenge list should most certainly be balanced around SSF players, and avoid calling for stuff that mandates trading for them. (e.g, 100 Abyssal Depths)

Simply put, if it's something that's ALSO horrendously painful for trading-league players to handle, it'd be even worse for SSF, and should be balanced out. It's also why we have stuff like buying skill gems from vendors since 2.0.0, and a decent selection of critical threshold jewels available as quest rewards.

Fait enough.
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
Of all the RNG issues in this game, my opinion is that the Vaal chances are pretty low down the list of general concerns. Well below stuff like helm enchants, crafting affix dilution, loot table dilution in general, map drops (somewhat being addressed)........
this gem threads giving me some type of cancer..
vaal it sir. vaal it. just vaal it. dont want a rng type of situation to be grind based.
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