lvl 21 gem recipy

Dear GGG please consider bad luck protection for Vaal gem mechanic.

Last race I Vaal 26 lvl 20 gems and got +1 level at the very last one when I was lvl 98.
That's really annoying, its same thing when ppl spend 3-4k fus without 6 link.
But we have Voricity who can protect you from bad luck and link it for 1500fus.
We need something similar for gems as well.
Please consider the next recipe:
x10 lvl 20 gems = lvl 21 gem (quality base on lowest gem quality in the trade recipy).

Or add some kind of way to invest currency (100-200 or even 500 vaal) to get a guarantee lvl 21 gem.
Maybe through master craft (new vorticity option).

Best regards.

You have, at least from what I know, a chance of 1:10 for a +1 Level corruption.
So one gem in 10 tries should be normal and hits quite what I have seen too. There are times where you just have bad luck and might need to vaal 30 games, on the other hand you maybe lucky and hit 3 +1 vaals in a row.

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AkumaNoTsubasa a écrit :

You have, at least from what I know, a chance of 1:10 for a +1 Level corruption.
So one gem in 10 tries should be normal and hits quite what I have seen too. There are times where you just have bad luck and might need to vaal 30 games, on the other hand you maybe lucky and hit 3 +1 vaals in a row.

+1 average is 6 gems (if gem has vaal version) and 5 if it doesn't. 1 time +1 per 26 gems it is kind of super bad luck, and should be fixed somehow. for meta build its easy just go and buy, but for non-meta and ssf its pain.

if u playing ssf or u playing specific build you can hit lvl 100 without needed gem.
I hit 98 without gem 21.

guarantee gem lvl 21 for large cost is needed especially for ssf/and hc with low trade market.

That just adds more 21 gems into the market, lets assume for a second that you considered corrupted gems, in which case if you brick 10 20\20 you can convert to one 21\20, in many cases that will drive down the prices of those 21\20 gems.

If its clean only, then if you have 10 gems you should easily be able to get +1 on at least one of those.

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Emperor_home a écrit :

+1 average is 6 gems (if gem has vaal version) and 5 if it doesn't.

I'd like to see your sources, since it's been well-established that eligibility for any particular outcome does NOT affect the odds. This has been demonstrated with how non-vaal-eligible gems tend to get a "null result" 50% of the time when corrupted, because they CAN roll the "Vaal gem" result, which grants... Nothing.

Same thing for "white sockets" on gear without sockets; it CAN roll them, it just does nothing. (this was demonstrated in Incursion, where this was the only way for the Altar to corrupt an item without bricking/poofing it, nor giving it two implicits; this showed up a few times on things like Tabulas and Kaom's)

Odds of getting + or - 1 level appear to be equal to each other, which places the odds closer to 1/8 per.

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ACGIFT a écrit :

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Emperor_home a écrit :

+1 average is 6 gems (if gem has vaal version) and 5 if it doesn't.

I'd like to see your sources, since it's been well-established that eligibility for any particular outcome does NOT affect the odds. This has been demonstrated with how non-vaal-eligible gems tend to get a "null result" 50% of the time when corrupted, because they CAN roll the "Vaal gem" result, which grants... Nothing.

Same thing for "white sockets" on gear without sockets; it CAN roll them, it just does nothing. (this was demonstrated in Incursion, where this was the only way for the Altar to corrupt an item without bricking/poofing it, nor giving it two implicits; this showed up a few times on things like Tabulas and Kaom's)

Odds of getting + or - 1 level appear to be equal to each other, which places the odds closer to 1/8 per.

Is each outcome possibility equal? Or are some more likely than others?

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Phaeded a écrit :

Is each outcome possibility equal? Or are some more likely than others?

Every case I've seen of it being tested suggests that every outcome is of an equal probability. That is to say, any variance from this is within the margin of error for each test's respective sample size.

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Emperor_home a écrit :

Or add some kind of way to invest currency (100-200 or even 500 vaal) to get a guarantee lvl 21 gem.

Later in league 500 vaals > 500 chaos and roughly > 5 ex. With 5 ex you can purchase any lvl 21 gem.

To be honest, I don't think we need any more deterministic method to acquire level 21 gems. And this is coming from someone who has yet to actually succeed at producing one of these; RNG has not been kind to me there. (I'm the one on the other side of the equation that balances out the OP's experience suggesting it's BETTER than it is)

Overall, when compiled together, what is TECHNICALLY a form of nested RNG are rolls that are pretty generous, to where it's just a 12.5% chance. And if you go serious in a league, and remember to keep leveling 6 gems in your alternate slots at all times. (even easier what with the brightbeak+shield charge nerf; you're no longer using 3 sockets for that!)

Truth be told, I probably would've had at least a 21 or two had I just Vaal'd ALL of my 20/20 gems. Mostly, it was that I was saving them for the Lapidary Lens, as a mere 21/20 wasn't worth as much on Incursion due to the prospect for 21/23s and 21/20 Vaal gems.

This shouldn't even be an issue for SSF players, given they can corrupt this stuff themselves. For trading-league players... A handful of exalts will buy you pretty much any gem available.

Adding a recipe would just be needless complication. It violates the basic rules of balance. (of which Rory ham-fistedly explained half of)

Yes, making it expensive would make sure there's the "Why not" answer (aka "flaw" according to Rory) but would leave the "Why should you do this?" question without a satisfactory answer.

In short, it'd just create a noob trap. There's no good reason to add it to the game.

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DivineChampion a écrit :

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Emperor_home a écrit :

Or add some kind of way to invest currency (100-200 or even 500 vaal) to get a guarantee lvl 21 gem.

Later in league 500 vaals > 500 chaos and roughly > 5 ex. With 5 ex you can purchase any lvl 21 gem.

Hello! have u read??? on hc and ssf there is not much lvl 21 gems on sale