Incursion Timer

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Arrowneous a écrit :

Or you could put up a post "guide to successful Incursion temple runs" and help us "filthy casuals" and lesser players out. No need for this challenge league to be another "just for elites" exclusive league. I hate GGG for making content that is exclusive for them... they've done that too many times. And to all going to troll back "git gud" just don't... please for the love of... NO!

As a new player I can only reiterate that these incursions are incredibly frustrating. The timer is brutally short, there isn't time to do jack before the thing runs out. A couple seconds to approach enemies, some more seconds to kill the first wave, with luck you haven't lost time here due to gains (but usually you do). Before you know it there are 2 seconds left and then you're out a blink later.

Last time I went in as level 62 with a strong build. Went in the direction of the architect I wanted dead. Didn't even see the guy. "Good job", my arse. No idea how people are able to clear it all out. Going by the bar at the bottom of the screen, I had cleared maybe 25%.

Clear as day that this is made for the veteran players that know the game inside out, and probably have skills that kill off a room by a stern look in its general direction.

I reckon most who struggle just don't bother with it, and certainly don't come here to complain.

Hopefully this elitism doesn't make it into the core game - especially if Alva is going to keep barking in our face in ever damn map. At least shut her up.

Make it 30 seconds and normal people can have a chance too.

I'm really not enjoying it or seeing the point behind it. If the timer is "fine" and people are finishing with 20 seconds left, then why does the timer exist? How would removing it change anything? What is the argument for keeping it in? If it was like breach where everyone runs out of time eventually and you are just pushing as far as you can, that makes sense. Incursions have a clear end, many people can hit that end with time to spare, it's a completely dumb and pointless timer that seems to only exist to frustrate people who don't like rushing through a game like a teen high on energy drinks.

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Astasia a écrit :

I'm really not enjoying it or seeing the point behind it. If the timer is "fine" and people are finishing with 20 seconds left, then why does the timer exist? How would removing it change anything? What is the argument for keeping it in? If it was like breach where everyone runs out of time eventually and you are just pushing as far as you can, that makes sense. Incursions have a clear end, many people can hit that end with time to spare, it's a completely dumb and pointless timer that seems to only exist to frustrate people who don't like rushing through a game like a teen high on energy drinks.

As you can see many people cannot meet the timer requirements. So it's not pointless. In general situation timer is pretty lenient. Especially if you play SC where you can go full DPS. On HC and high tier maps, the situation is different thou. Not always so easy when you get some DPS crippling mods on map.

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Vandorak a écrit :

Good Job

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StIa_FG944Y

i keep learning, but this event is not for me :)

Ps: after done 11 attemps of "times up" or even die, i can enter in the temple, where i cant kill blue mobs / elite. so im wondering when im gonna enjoy the event?

ps2: im playing tornado shot, but apparently i need to optimise that build, so i need specific gems linked, so specific gear linked , but for that i need to farm... its infinite!!!

I had a look at your character and it looks like you should be clearing with no problem at all...

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satanttin a écrit :

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Shagsbeard a écrit :

Nope it's fine. You'll eventually learn how to run them and it will be easy peazy. You're just starting out. Run them for practice and by the time your character is built you'll be full clearing them, opening all the doors and killing an architect with 20 seconds left on the timer.

lol doubt it x'D unless u make a build designed just for that or just a lame meta build

Dude i whipped up 2 meme builds while leveling. No PoB or anything. Just whip them up as i go. Still i have beign full clearing them with 20sec left for ages, Im on T10 maps now and still have no problem clearing and killing the architect (unless im playing on my smartphone). So maby you just need more dps/aoe and maby a movement skill.
Anyway they are easy peazy after few acts if you got any idea what you are doing.

The timer is very frustrating while levelling if you do not pick a strong levelling skill. My m8 and I were raging at it.

We both decided to play Power Siphon Deadeye this league and once you get to maps you will always clear the incursion with 20 sec left and whatever architect you want dead.

Don't look at my gear and say OMG ofc you are clearing (it's not even all that great and my jewels need major improvements). I got very lucky with drops and currency flow this league and managed to get some decent pieces. I was clearing them with a power siphon in Thunderfist and a 5L barrage for the architects easy starting from level 70 up.

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Laskinaama a écrit :

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satanttin a écrit :

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Shagsbeard a écrit :

Nope it's fine. You'll eventually learn how to run them and it will be easy peazy. You're just starting out. Run them for practice and by the time your character is built you'll be full clearing them, opening all the doors and killing an architect with 20 seconds left on the timer.

lol doubt it x'D unless u make a build designed just for that or just a lame meta build

Dude i whipped up 2 meme builds while leveling. No PoB or anything. Just whip them up as i go. Still i have beign full clearing them with 20sec left for ages, Im on T10 maps now and still have no problem clearing and killing the architect (unless im playing on my smartphone). So maby you just need more dps/aoe and maby a movement skill.
Anyway they are easy peazy after few acts if you got any idea what you are doing.

Stop the thread! Here is some great instructive text everyone! Perhaps a bit masturbatory as well, but, hey, he can do it so if you cannot, then you = bad.

Simple! Concise! Amazing!

here's a list of skills that can definitely clear incursion fine with the right build

blade vortex
blast rain
cyclone
double strike
ele hit
ethereal knives
frost blades
lightning arrow
lightning strike
Ice shot
rain of arrows
reave
spectral throw
tornado shot
volatile death
wild strike
infernal blow
molten strike
shield charge
sunder
arc
ball lightning
cold snap
essence drain
dark pact
fireball
flameblast
frostbolt
glacial cascade
kinetic blast
magma orb
power siphon
scorching ray
righteous fire
flicker strike

and keep in mind many of these can work multiple ways (trap mine totem etc)

and this is without mentioning summoners or wonky shit like autobombers etc.

so yeah.

maybe the problem isnt wwith the narrow array of builds, you just suck

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Filousov a écrit :

As you can see many people cannot meet the timer requirements. So it's not pointless.

So the point is to specifically stop some people from enjoying the event but not others. Ok. That's great.

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shaunika90 a écrit :

here's a list of skills that can definitely clear incursion fine with the right build

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maybe the problem isnt wwith the narrow array of builds, you just suck

DPS isn't even the main factor in clearing them. It's mobility. I have made 3 characters this league, two of them suck at incursions even though they have the DPS to one shot most packs. They use wands though, and have crap movement skills and minimal move speed (just boots and flasks). My third character is a Raider with over +100% move speed, lowest DPS of my characters but easiest to clear incursions with.

So what if I suck? I'm not allowed to have fun in the game because I'm a bad player that doesn't want to spam movement skills like a crackhead on every character I make?

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Astasia a écrit :

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Filousov a écrit :

As you can see many people cannot meet the timer requirements. So it's not pointless.

So the point is to specifically stop some people from enjoying the event but not others. Ok. That's great.

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shaunika90 a écrit :

here's a list of skills that can definitely clear incursion fine with the right build

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maybe the problem isnt wwith the narrow array of builds, you just suck

DPS isn't even the main factor in clearing them. It's mobility. I have made 3 characters this league, two of them suck at incursions even though they have the DPS to one shot most packs. They use wands though, and have crap movement skills and minimal move speed (just boots and flasks). My third character is a Raider with over +100% move speed, lowest DPS of my characters but easiest to clear incursions with.

So what if I suck? I'm not allowed to have fun in the game because I'm a bad player that doesn't want to spam movement skills like a crackhead on every character I make?

two words: phase run. link it with inc duration, enhance and arcane surge. it'Ll solve your problems +an adrenaline flask but I'm hoping you already have that.

my arc trapper didnt have any movement skills besides phase run since I didnt have enough attack speed for shield charge, and I shit on incursions by just running, I Just needed to plan my route well.

and yes, you're allowed to have fun, but I should be rewarded for being better at the game than you, should I not?

if you're not good enough then do lower level incursions.

if the game doesnt put challenges in front of you that force you to be better, then you wont become better :P