[3.6] Triple Herald Blade Vortex Elementalist

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FreshMeat93 a écrit :

Wow,tryed Hydra and damage was super low,took me like 3-4 mins of tango dancing with her,i'm wondering how ppl saying here that they are killing Uber Elder easy.

Is that the difference between crit and non-crit versions with Elemental Overload?
Elemental Overload non-crit version is way better then for single target damage or what?

What i'm missing anyone pls?
Why single damage so terrible?
Im not expected to kill t16's bosses in 2-3 secods like Molten Strikes crit builds ofc,but 3-4 min that's really bad,even sunder builds do more damage...

EO is for max your clearspeed not single target

I think you have too much crit strike chance and low crit multi damage.
Need better scepter and second weap, 6link and jewels to max your damage.

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m3tal1k a écrit :

Need better scepter and second weap, 6link and jewels to max your damage.

Better sceptre srsly?
This one cost around 10Ex.
I have 4 jewels active,just not linked them in the thread.
6 link is not the problem - but it will not solve single damage problem.

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FreshMeat93 a écrit :

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m3tal1k a écrit :

Need better scepter and second weap, 6link and jewels to max your damage.

Better sceptre srsly?
This one cost around 10Ex.
I have 4 jewels active,just not linked them in the thread.
6 link is not the problem - but it will not solve single damage problem.

It's really bad scepter. Only 1 mod % physical as extra damage. You dont need extra crit chance.
6 link - conc effect or crit multi gem will give you nice boost.
I saw your gems. You should look for some with a crit multi.

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m3tal1k a écrit :

Spoiler

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FreshMeat93 a écrit :

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m3tal1k a écrit :

Need better scepter and second weap, 6link and jewels to max your damage.

Better sceptre srsly?
This one cost around 10Ex.
I have 4 jewels active,just not linked them in the thread.
6 link is not the problem - but it will not solve single damage problem.

It's really bad scepter. Only 1 mod % physical as extra damage. You dont need extra crit chance.
6 link - conc effect or crit multi gem will give you nice boost.
I saw your gems. You should look for some with a crit multi.

This scepter is quite far from bad! While only 1 extra damage mod is not optimal and it is missing crit multi, it's still quite good.

Stacking crit chance on your weapon is by far not the worst thing to do, as you can get enough crit chance on your weapons to skip on the Critical Strike Chance gem in your main setup. In turn it allows for a better damage gem like crit multi or another utility gem like Efficacy. This, as well as the higher base attack speed, is the reason why a dagger is recomended as a second weapon.

You are right on the jewels though. Flat damage on jewels is not recomended because of the 30% damage effectiveness of BV. Crit multi is the best way to scale the damage for late game and single target.

PS: @FreshMeat93: if I where you I would get an Orb of Storm with Power Charge on Crit plus Arcane Surge slottet into that scepter. You can use the free gem on the scepter, get power charges and additional damage. Win win win!

Hello, sry for my english i wanna ask about skill tree part at 25 points, cause in 3.4 this tree part looks other, and idk what i need to pick

Didn't know theres such thing as too much crit chance. How much tooltip crit chance should I aim for? I.e. when is it a good time to switch from crit chance gem to crit damage?

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matesasd a écrit :

Didn't know theres such thing as too much crit chance. How much tooltip crit chance should I aim for? I.e. when is it a good time to switch from crit chance gem to crit damage?

Other stats just become better once you reach a certain point of crit chance and extra chance is doing less for your overall dps. If you consider lucky strikes from your diamond flask, increases in effective crit chance start to flatten at around 60% and become negligible at 80% unbuffed crit chance. (https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Luck)

Exact values vary drasticly depending on the individual setups and gear. I encurage everyone to get used to Path of Building and look what really makes your damage work.

PS: Congratz on 300 pages DirtyDot! Truly one of the great builds in PoE history!

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m3tal1k a écrit :

It's really bad scepter. Only 1 mod % physical as extra damage. You dont need extra crit chance.

I don't get it.
You saying that we need crit. mode at sceptre at all or what?
If not why no extra crit?

Changed sceptre for dagger
And get 6 link Inpulsa.
Crit multi are 480% now wihout multi on jewels.
BV tooltip are 8200 - 9500.
What ideally it should be?

Also did anyone tested is there enough mana pool to run 2 herals(ice,fire) + Grace + lvl 4 enlighten + 3rd herald(HoT + WM) in other links?

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m3tal1k a écrit :

2 stacks is enough to clear packs for me, casting max only for bosses

changed my tree (back to 3 heralds) hopefully it will work now, otherwise couldnt even do guardians...even with ToH :S

-managed to kill guardian, yay :) now need other item to be advised for aiming :))) probably something that is not too expensive but can boost dmg.
To be honest, i thought build would perform better for boss fights :/

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FreshMeat93 a écrit :

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m3tal1k a écrit :

It's really bad scepter. Only 1 mod % physical as extra damage. You dont need extra crit chance.

I don't get it.
You saying that we need crit. mode at sceptre at all or what?
If not why no extra crit?

Changed sceptre for dagger

And get 6 link Inpulsa.
Crit multi are 480% now wihout multi on jewels.
BV tooltip are 8200 - 9500.
What ideally it should be?

Also did anyone tested is there enough mana pool to run 2 herals(ice,fire) + Grace + lvl 4 enlighten + 3rd herald(HoT + WM) in other links?

Replace ice bite to hypothermia at your 6-link, it`s do anything
Take Vaal blade vortex 21 lvl, and all gems with 20 quality
Find shield with more spell dmg
Take ring mark of the shaped with any elder ring with resistance
And use arcane surge
i have 12.5-14k dmg at tooltip