[3.7] Bashtart's Frost Blades Trickster * Oni-Goroshi * Insane Speed & Millions DPS with BF!

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ILIAS a écrit :
Does chance of double damage works well with this build?

Not sure what you mean... ?!
Help me coz its my first char in poe and i use this build.Cant beat the fucking uber lab.Izaro sometimes kill me from one atack.What shoud i do?(tried varios of combinations of this build).I tried to get fucking 4th ascendasy passive 10-12 times
Now im trying to beat izaro with iron reflexes.have 4800hp and ~50% of phys dmg reduction
Dernière édition par maribor666#7338, le 11 avr. 2018 à 16:57:40
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maribor666 a écrit :
Help me coz its my first char in poe and i use this build.Cant beat the fucking uber lab.Izaro sometimes kill me from one atack.What shoud i do?(tried varios of combinations of this build).I tried to get fucking 4th ascendasy passive 10-12 times
Now im trying to beat izaro with iron reflexes.have 4800hp and ~50% of phys dmg reduction


UberLab is more or less a gear&level check and knowing the fight mechanics. You are a new player and only 84 so I would recommend make a few more level before you try it again. Before I make Uberlab normally I try to get +5k life. If you just level 3-4 more level also your gems etc will be higher and everything will be easier.

If you don't want to wait I recommend to watch this VIDEO from Engineering Eternity. You can make the final Izaro fight easier when you defuse the traps in the previous ones.
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bashtart a écrit :
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maribor666 a écrit :
Help me coz its my first char in poe and i use this build.Cant beat the fucking uber lab.Izaro sometimes kill me from one atack.What shoud i do?(tried varios of combinations of this build).I tried to get fucking 4th ascendasy passive 10-12 times
Now im trying to beat izaro with iron reflexes.have 4800hp and ~50% of phys dmg reduction


UberLab is more or less a gear&level check and knowing the fight mechanics. You are a new player and only 84 so I would recommend make a few more level before you try it again. Before I make Uberlab normally I try to get +5k life. If you just level 3-4 more level also your gems etc will be higher and everything will be easier.

If you don't want to wait I recommend to watch this VIDEO from Engineering Eternity. You can make the final Izaro fight easier when you defuse the traps in the previous ones.


Thanks for answer and for build which make game so interesting for me(started play few times but didnt reach endgame any time). I got it all what and i've got some questions about build.If build based on evasion why we should use arctic armour that increase phys dmg resistance? coz 13% isnt really enough in my opinion.
And the second, how does Point blank works with molten strike projectiles?is it true that with conc effect it increases damage op to 50 percent?
(sorry for my eng :D)
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bashtart a écrit :
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ILIAS a écrit :
Does chance of double damage works well with this build?

Not sure what you mean... ?!


I mean Aspect of the Avian skill on a rare ring for example. 10% chance on hit to deal double damage. But not sure how double damage is exacrtly calculated
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maribor666 a écrit :
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bashtart a écrit :
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maribor666 a écrit :
Help me coz its my first char in poe and i use this build.Cant beat the fucking uber lab.Izaro sometimes kill me from one atack.What shoud i do?(tried varios of combinations of this build).I tried to get fucking 4th ascendasy passive 10-12 times
Now im trying to beat izaro with iron reflexes.have 4800hp and ~50% of phys dmg reduction


UberLab is more or less a gear&level check and knowing the fight mechanics. You are a new player and only 84 so I would recommend make a few more level before you try it again. Before I make Uberlab normally I try to get +5k life. If you just level 3-4 more level also your gems etc will be higher and everything will be easier.

If you don't want to wait I recommend to watch this VIDEO from Engineering Eternity. You can make the final Izaro fight easier when you defuse the traps in the previous ones.


Thanks for answer and for build which make game so interesting for me(started play few times but didnt reach endgame any time). I got it all what and i've got some questions about build.If build based on evasion why we should use arctic armour that increase phys dmg resistance? coz 13% isnt really enough in my opinion.
And the second, how does Point blank works with molten strike projectiles?is it true that with conc effect it increases damage op to 50 percent?
(sorry for my eng :D)


13% phys damage reduction is significant, and another layer of your defense. On top of that, it reduces all Fire damage hits by the same amount too.

With incoming attacks, first you check to see if you block (no chance with this build). Then you check to see if you Dodge (moderate chance with Acrobatics), then you check to see if you Evade (good chance with this build). If you pass any of the above checks, there is no damage taken. But IF the attack gets through all that, then armor, Endurance charges, and effects like Fortify or Arctic Armor are used to reduce the damage taken.

FYI, against physical attacks, Arctic Armor is worth roughly 2000 armor, or about the same as a very good armor chest piece (or 3 Endurance charges), and it's like having higher Fire Resist against fire attacks.

Lets take your 4800HP character for example; a 5000 point hit is reduced down to 4350 points. That's 650HP you don't need to leech/regen/flask, and that can be a very big deal, the difference between being one-shotted or surviving.

Iron Reflexes sucks for us, because we don't have access to all the armor and life nodes on the left side of the tree that make it strong enough to warrant using (or really the points to stack much EV on the tree either) AND we throw away the defensive benefits of our highest stat, Dex.

That means Evasion/Dodge is our best bet, and then being able to layer in AA and Fortify on top in case the RNG doesn't go your way just makes it even better, and why TPF is such a solid choice, IMO better than Kaom's Heart by far for a Shadow.

You're MUCH more survivable with TPF/AA/Acrobatics/Fortify/Weave and high EV gear than you would be in pure armor and the relatively low life pool we have access to. To make it very clear, 5k life is LOW with Iron Reflexes..because while armor will reduce hit damage, you take just about EVERY ATTACK HIT with no EV and no Dodge. IR's biggest benefit is double-dipping on Armor/EV nodes to stack even more armor, and the convenience of having hybrid gear (easier to off-color, more gear selection) as straight Armor.

Regarding Point Blank, yes, it's a HUGE damage booster for Molten Strike combined with Conc Effect combined with Wildfire jewels. Frost Blades suffers a bit from Point Blank though, because damage of the chained projectiles drops off, and FB is a clear skill, so the close range boost doesn't help with clearing, but it's still very effective even with PB so it doesn't matter.
Dernière édition par Capozzi#7983, le 12 avr. 2018 à 13:58:28
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bashtart a écrit :
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ILIAS a écrit :
Does chance of double damage works well with this build?

Not sure what you mean... ?!


I mean Aspect of the Avian skill on a rare ring for example. 10% chance on hit to deal double damage. But not sure how double damage is exacrtly calculated

Oh Aspect of the Avian ... I don't think it is really worth it tbh.
Anyone attempted Uber Elder yet? I have spawned one and killed all the guardians, but I'm still struggling with the mechanical part of Shaper/Elder fight so I'm not too keen to try it.

E: What do you guys think about The Green Nightmare jewel for extra dodge chance. Got both blessing and the green dream from my first ever Chayula run.
Dernière édition par santzu#3215, le 13 avr. 2018 à 07:20:55
I have just finished farming 4 Oni-Goroshi, now I´m selling 2 and try to get my gear with the other 2.

Is there any disadvantage in switching blades for both skills other than having to press an extra button? I only got a 5L The Perfect Form because I don't have enough currency for 6L.

Should I use the Oni-Goroshi with the higher crit roll on Frost Blades or Molten Strike?
Dernière édition par thelars0r#5550, le 13 avr. 2018 à 12:42:17
Heya, first thanks OP for the build guide, using it and loving it :).

I have some doubts about what's the next step to take about my gear (out of higher crit% Oni), could you guys lend a hand ? Lvl 87 ~4k9 (~50-60hp to 5k)
Dernière édition par Aedenes#7761, le 13 avr. 2018 à 19:37:26

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