is necro build always this weak?

im following this build https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1949867
and so far the damage is slowly becoming less attractive to me...

my PoB clocks minion casters at total dps of 32 that seems ver low to me compared to the knight skeletons wooping 100+ total dps.

are necro builds always this weak?

Most necro builds supplement the damage done by their minions somehow, so looking at base damage is cherry-picking. You can use offerings. You can self-cast spells. You can swing a sword if that's your thing.

Or, you can dedicate yourself to exclusively using minions and they can become much stronger. Golem builds are quite viable if you can get hold of the jewels required. Zombies can be buffed to the moon with The Baron and other helpers.

You can expect to get to mapping with basic summons though, which is the litmus test for "viable" in GGG's eyes.

You can clear up to T12 and past with zombie scepter and a 4 link +2 summons helmet. If you've tapped out early mapping somethings gone wrong with your build/links, as shags says barons great but sadly a combination of increased rarity and the # of SRS scumbags makes it extremely expensive currently so your better off going something cheaper.

Just look at my GravelyMistaken character. I revamped my Femurs of the Saints Vis Mortis multimancer to use skeletons instead of SRS and it rocks. Already done T15 deathless with self found rares.

Not a direct example of the same build you are following rocking but necros are not weak this league. They still suffer from QoL but you simply aren't used to playing a summoner yet.

Summoner are decent in endgame. Not really fast in terms of clearspeed, but good dps on paper.
I just dislike the gameplay.

Leveling is still a real pain imho. I even dislike leveling with raging spirits even though it feels more like a caster than a summoner

Theres a video on youtube with necro zombie instant killing shaper without dying... how id necro weak?

Just search for necro zombie

Let me be honest here.

I've playing PoE Summoners since 2015. I've tried many builds and also created some builds my self and here's my opinion:

Summnoners are good to farm Ubers and Shaper? No. There's many builds that do it with more efficiency.

Summoners have the best clearspeed? No. There's many builds that do it with more efficiency.

Summoners are for brainless/fingerless people? No. For people like that we have Cyclone, EK, Totems, etc...

BUT...

- If you really understaind their mechanics you can do all the content deathless;
- Reflect damage is not a problem for you;
- You dont have to avoid many map mods;
- Great league starters;
- Great for SSF and HC (RaizQT aproves);
- Most of the builds are cheap and begginer friendly.

You have to avoid the mistake of try to create a balance between your damage and Minion Damage. You must focus on minion damage, and use some trash skill like ball lightining just to trigger the Elemental Equilibrium passive to do more fire and cold damage.

Here's a video guide from Ghazzy. High quality material: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRwgILNUEQs

I also recommend to watch he's stream. This guys is a huge summoner player and have many great builds.

See you.

summoners are amazing SRS is one of the best spells in game and zombies make great meat sheilds

specters provide utility and additional DPS

its a really solid build type

I just managed to squeeze Dead Reckoning, Unending Hunger and Violent Dead with a From Dust all into one summoner... 45 projectiles a second... The clear speed is beautiful...

RenanLamante's response is spot on. It's just that this game's meta is always so focused around clearing whole maps in under a minute that most people consider the "safe, effective" method of army-commander to be not-worth-mentioning.

I've actually used a hybrid aura-support/summoner build for the last several leagues... not QUITE as solo viable in the higher-end maps... but being able to bounce between solo-mapping and running as a support for other, more power-oriented builds gives some much needed diversity/"anti-burnout" to the game :)