Buff/rework blasphemy AOE

After recent changes to aoe, blasphemy range, buffed by passives or not, is really, really small. Not worth 35% mana reservation by any means, imo. Using whathever else to curse the enemies is better.
Buff life on the right side of the tree! Just a little! Pretty Please!
Dernière édition par The_Risen#6326, le 1 juin 2017 à 22:18:26
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The_Risen a écrit :
After recent changes to aoe, blasphemy range, buffed by passives or not, is really, really small. Not worth 35% mana reservation by any means, imo. Using whathever else to curse the enemies is better.


not worth it? then do not use it. you can make a choice

POE for too long was (and still is in fact) a game where players werent expected to make choices. they were just cherry picking the best for the least.

on that note - because both curses and blasphemy gets AOE from levels - there is at least some non-standard value to items with +1 gems and/or +1 curse gem levels. noone will use them in endgame 'because not worth it' meme but the option is there
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sidtherat a écrit :
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The_Risen a écrit :
After recent changes to aoe, blasphemy range, buffed by passives or not, is really, really small. Not worth 35% mana reservation by any means, imo. Using whathever else to curse the enemies is better.


not worth it? then do not use it. you can make a choice

POE for too long was (and still is in fact) a game where players werent expected to make choices. they were just cherry picking the best for the least.

on that note - because both curses and blasphemy gets AOE from levels - there is at least some non-standard value to items with +1 gems and/or +1 curse gem levels. noone will use them in endgame 'because not worth it' meme but the option is there


What's the point of something existing if it's not worth using? Derp, you have any idea about what balance is? Because if your point is to avoid creating "cherry picking options", and blasphemy is too bad people will soon realize it's not an option, then your own argument beats your opinion.
Buff life on the right side of the tree! Just a little! Pretty Please!
Dernière édition par The_Risen#6326, le 2 juin 2017 à 21:34:10
It looks like its only going to be worth using for melee now.
Unless focussing in curse passives can increase the radius enough?
(that actually sounds like a fun build to try, lots of curses on a Blasphemy)
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The_Risen a écrit :
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sidtherat a écrit :
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The_Risen a écrit :
After recent changes to aoe, blasphemy range, buffed by passives or not, is really, really small. Not worth 35% mana reservation by any means, imo. Using whathever else to curse the enemies is better.


not worth it? then do not use it. you can make a choice

POE for too long was (and still is in fact) a game where players werent expected to make choices. they were just cherry picking the best for the least.

on that note - because both curses and blasphemy gets AOE from levels - there is at least some non-standard value to items with +1 gems and/or +1 curse gem levels. noone will use them in endgame 'because not worth it' meme but the option is there


What's the point of something existing if it's not worth using? Derp, you have any idea about what balance is? Because if your point is to avoid creating "cherry picking options", and blasphemy is too bad people will soon realize it's not an option, then your own argument beats your opinion.


it is you who define 'worthiness' of a thing. something tells me that it is this definition that is the problem, not the actuall AOE on blasphemy

it is up to the player to evaluate alternatives and select what he thinks fits best. right now blasphemy is no longer a braindead choice and this is a good thing. meaningful choices create tension and make players think.

blasphemy was a terrible design mistake. auto cursing over entire screen for a small reservation (35% base and like 17% with nodes and lvl4 support.. please.

if you do not feel you need it - do not use it. some will. some wont.

this game has too many auto-picks and no-choices already
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HousePet a écrit :
It looks like its only going to be worth using for melee

I don't think that it's any true, but anyway :
good then, one thing that gives melees an advantage.

SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
I'm running blasphemy with enfeeble/temporal chains with heretic of the veil so this is a level 22 blasphemy. I'm also melee and I can tell you the AOE just flat out sucks. It literally can't compete with lacerate even with concentrated effect on. I have no AOE investments and as a result, the defense provided is pretty bad. Odds are I'll be killed before my curses even touch the enemies. Currently, I have to use whirling blades to get close enough to the enemies for the curses to take affect. We seriously need an AOE boost here.
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Slicer9875 a écrit :
I'm running blasphemy with enfeeble/temporal chains with heretic of the veil so this is a level 22 blasphemy. I'm also melee and I can tell you the AOE just flat out sucks. It literally can't compete with lacerate even with concentrated effect on. I have no AOE investments and as a result, the defense provided is pretty bad. Odds are I'll be killed before my curses even touch the enemies. Currently, I have to use whirling blades to get close enough to the enemies for the curses to take affect. We seriously need an AOE boost here.


Lacerate isn't melee, it's ranged with a sword. Blasphemy works great for me melee splashing viper strike and single target dual striking and that feels like it was always its intention, a means to provide auras good for melee. I just wish it ignored hexproof somehow without relying entirely on Cospri's.
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Slicer9875 a écrit :
I'm running blasphemy with enfeeble/temporal chains with heretic of the veil so this is a level 22 blasphemy. I'm also melee and I can tell you the AOE just flat out sucks. It literally can't compete with lacerate even with concentrated effect on. I have no AOE investments and as a result, the defense provided is pretty bad. Odds are I'll be killed before my curses even touch the enemies. Currently, I have to use whirling blades to get close enough to the enemies for the curses to take affect. We seriously need an AOE boost here.


is your Blasphemy and curse both lvl20?

why do you expect big AOE without AOE investments?

if you want these curses to cover half of the screen - why no AOE support? i know it increases the cost but hey, good things come with a price tag


in general the Blasphemy should not exist. it removed any form of skill and cost from the curse usage (why it has positive 'curse effect' is a great mistery up to this day)

current situation where the blasphemied-curses are 'tad smaller' than before at least creates a 'need to think it over' situation. previously no brain cells were needed and a player could have everything without paying much
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sidtherat a écrit :
why do you expect big AOE without AOE investments?

if you want these curses to cover half of the screen - why no AOE support? i know it increases the cost but hey, good things come with a price tag

People expect things for free these days it seems ....
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.

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