[3.25]g00fy_goober's EleBuzzsaw Deadeye (Easily Clear All Content) *REVAMPED AGAIN*

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schebab7 a écrit :
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g00fy_goober a écrit :

- Leech applies to any weapon yes, but you have to take all the claw nodes to get soul raker so why would you ever use anything else? Swords are inferior to claws in every way. For example the best "sword" you can ever have is a foil. Base is 5.5% crit for 1.6 aps. Imperial claw is best claw base you can have (unless you go Gemini for the mana on hit as well) the base is also 1.6 aps but crit is 6% instead of 5.5%.

- ST% enchant is the one you want



Because swords have higher dps. I've done it in PoB with multiple different claws. It always ends up with a loss in dps even though my sword is t2 lightning, t1 cold and t1 fire with t1 ias, t2 crit multi and mastercrafted crit chance, even 5 t1 imperials ends up with less dps. It's not even a matter of a question for me. I'm also surprised that it is that way, but I don't question numbers. Claws are inferior to foils when it comes to damage.

none of the mirror service claws gave me a dps boost that exists in harbinger and they have better stats than my sword, straight up. you can check PoB for yourself. foil wins in the end.. probably cause of the crit multi and that fatal blade pathing provides more damage than soul raker pathing. the only real upside with claws is that you dont have to take the life/mana leech nodes in the south part of the tree.

ST enchant is less single target dps than the deceleration one. Maybe ST damage enchant is better if you're mapping and you're missing a bit of dps to smooth out map clear, but the deceleration is really just insane for shaper and such things. For a high geared character the ST enchant just doesnt really do anything for you since you will end up one shotting the mobs in the maps anyway (including rares with headhunter) and the only thing 'slowing' you down is the bosses where deceleration wins. At least if you switch to slower proj since it synergises really well with it.



feel free to let me know if you find a claw that gives more damage that exists in let's say harbinger sc. im actually curious where you got the information from that claws are superior in every way

I do however have 16% attack speed with swords and there was one claw with better stats than my sword that gave me 10k dps decrease which might be an upgrade with equivalent claw jewel, but the point being that claw had t1 crit multi, t1 lightning and the rest was the same.
I even had the apropriate claw nodes and PoB still told me it was a dps loss.



Using POB or in rality foil loses out to claw everytime, unless your crit/multi and tree is completely different. Shaper vs guardian vs other boss, general mapping, however you do it foil is worse by far.

For example take literally 100% perfect foil + 100% perfect claw. Shaper/guardian set, point blank distance on, now I crafted 2 test weapons Imperial claw with 100% perfect stats and jeweled foil with 100% perfect stats. Crit 43.64% effective crit 68.23% (diamond flask is turned on). 261k dps. Change to foil (without changing tree nodes) and it drops to 193k dps.

Now keep in mind this is with claw nodes still, so now take claw nodes with best claw vs sword nodes with sword...

Claw = 261k dps
Sword = 249k dps

Now that is just the claw/sword wheel 5 nodes. So if you take into consideration that if you went swords you would take off claws of the falcon and thus would have 3 extra points to use for the leech nodes the numbers would essentially be just that. Meaning claws are better.

Now again don't get me wrong, im not saying swords are bad/awful by any means, but claws take the cake with the "best".


As for the enchant, turn off GMP and add slower projectiles. With 40% ST enchant your single target dps against shaper/guardian is 364k dps, change enchant too deceleration and you drop to 343k dps. That is a 21k dps loss.

I am not sure if your just overlooking something in POB or what, but you are mistaken on both accounts.

Claws are better than swords
% ST dmg is the enchant you want (this is also reflected in price) that's why deceleration rats nest is like 30-60c and cheapest % ST dmg is like 4ex+
I was thinking doing this build on the next race. Do you think is viable?

Also, by checking the tree I noticed that you took Vaal Pact before taking any leech nodes. How it is supposed to maintain the life without regeneration and without leech?
Dernière édition par bibanul#7894, le 6 nov. 2017 à 10:51:38
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g00fy_goober a écrit :


Using POB or in rality foil loses out to claw everytime, unless your crit/multi and tree is completely different. Shaper vs guardian vs other boss, general mapping, however you do it foil is worse by far.

For example take literally 100% perfect foil + 100% perfect claw. Shaper/guardian set, point blank distance on, now I crafted 2 test weapons Imperial claw with 100% perfect stats and jeweled foil with 100% perfect stats. Crit 43.64% effective crit 68.23% (diamond flask is turned on). 261k dps. Change to foil (without changing tree nodes) and it drops to 193k dps.

Now keep in mind this is with claw nodes still, so now take claw nodes with best claw vs sword nodes with sword...

Claw = 261k dps
Sword = 249k dps

Now that is just the claw/sword wheel 5 nodes. So if you take into consideration that if you went swords you would take off claws of the falcon and thus would have 3 extra points to use for the leech nodes the numbers would essentially be just that. Meaning claws are better.

Now again don't get me wrong, im not saying swords are bad/awful by any means, but claws take the cake with the "best".


As for the enchant, turn off GMP and add slower projectiles. With 40% ST enchant your single target dps against shaper/guardian is 364k dps, change enchant too deceleration and you drop to 343k dps. That is a 21k dps loss.

I am not sure if your just overlooking something in POB or what, but you are mistaken on both accounts.

Claws are better than swords
% ST dmg is the enchant you want (this is also reflected in price) that's why deceleration rats nest is like 30-60c and cheapest % ST dmg is like 4ex+



Yeah I get opposite numbers but with sword being ahead rather than claw, but our trees are quite different not only the claw/sword nodes and the gear as well. I've been using my own gear/tree and modifying it while comparing.

I don't think you understand how deceleration works, the deceleration enchant doesnt give any paper dps. It's just a damage increase if you position yourself so the boss is at the end of the trajectory with slower proj which PoB cant account for. So putting it into PoB for comparison is pointless.
Sweaty_ballz - Lv 1 solo - Leveling is too easy - Twilight strand for life :)
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schebab7 a écrit :


Yeah I get opposite numbers but with sword being ahead rather than claw, but our trees are quite different not only the claw/sword nodes and the gear as well. I've been using my own gear/tree and modifying it while comparing.

I don't think you understand how deceleration works, the deceleration enchant doesnt give any paper dps. It's just a damage increase if you position yourself so the boss is at the end of the trajectory with slower proj which PoB cant account for. So putting it into PoB for comparison is pointless.


It's definitely possible that POB does not calculate this and I overlooked that on my part for sure.

Still from previous experience, other guides, actually playing the character in multiple leagues + standard etc everyone uses flat bonus for a reason.

I won't go into further giant explanations as we both obviously have different viewpoints.

Ill simply state that im glad you are enjoying your version of the build and wish you luck.
Why Ice Bite? Just for the freeze I guess?

Also any good leveling uniques, specifically weapons, that I may not be thinking of? Using le heup rings and HOTM for now.
IGN: Mirakool
Dernière édition par Mirakool#2905, le 7 nov. 2017 à 14:49:11
Hey dude, ill make your build, but have a little trouble. What happened with dps? I have only 27k in hideout, my gear isnt bad, but need little to upgrade. How much dps have you now in this time in hideout? Idk what to do, i understand if dps would be little lower, but I have 2 times less dps... Ill be grateful if you help me. Ty *hate ele builds*
Dernière édition par ankertest2#5953, le 7 nov. 2017 à 16:26:40
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ankertest2 a écrit :
Hey dude, ill make your build, but have a little trouble. What happened with dps? I have only 27k in hideout, my gear isnt bad, but need little to upgrade. How much dps have you now in this time in hideout? Idk what to do, i understand if dps would be little lower, but I have 2 times less dps... Ill be grateful if you help me. Ty *hate ele builds*


From looking at your character, there are a few things I picked up:
- You need more levels first
- Your gems aren't optimal yet (not 21/20 or even level 20 yet)
- Your items can be improved further (i.e your claw)

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From looking at your character, there are a few things I picked up:
- You need more levels first
- Your gems aren't optimal yet (not 21/20 or even level 20 yet)
- Your items can be improved further (i.e your claw)



- Lvl? But i take all passives for dps, a couple of points remain for some defences and charges...
- Gems can boost my dps for 2 times? (maximum on 2-3k)
- My claw dps is slightly worse than yours

Idk how is it can boost my dps in 2 times...

Dernière édition par ankertest2#5953, le 7 nov. 2017 à 17:38:37
Been playing this build this league, really fun! So first, thanks for that. My DPS is 56,259 with everything up, which is okay I guess, but I still die more often than I would like in T13 maps. I'm struggling to hit lvl90 before end of league, and doing T15 or T16 maps I don't think would be possible with this build as it is.

My Gear:


My Tree:
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIBAAEJAdEDHgUtBbUHHgzyDkgRLxGBEZYUdRX9Fr8XJhmKH0Ei6iP2JP0mlSoLKjgrCi5TMHwyATY9N9Q8vj7PQdBDMUd-SVFKfUz_TZJOKlFHVUtW-loaW69d8l9wYeJh62KsY6dlTWegbIxvV3BSdO11y3fXeBl6U3qEeu99dX8rg22HdonTjDaNfY1-jYGNuY2_kAqVLpcGmyadqqEiokCkwqXLr-uxfLIZtMW42bvjvTa95r6nwaDC7MMzwzrD5sSizZjPetCt02_TftQj2NXawd1G3Ujjn-dU6NbqYutj7T_w1fT4_W7-uv_e?accountName=saxisa&characterName=Ariege

I couldn't afford a 6L belly so I use Skin of the Loyal instead. Much cheaper and gives a nice DPS boost with the +1 to gems. Some defense improvements too with 100% increased global defenses. I use assassins mark with my CoH because it gives pretty much instant power charges. And I opted for the CWDT + Immortal Call + Increased Duration.

I also didn't take the Primal Spirit node because the claw sucks in mana so I don't have a problem with that.

Improvements?
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ankertest2 a écrit :
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From looking at your character, there are a few things I picked up:
- You need more levels first
- Your gems aren't optimal yet (not 21/20 or even level 20 yet)
- Your items can be improved further (i.e your claw)



- Lvl? But i take all passives for dps, a couple of points remain for some defences and charges...
- Gems can boost my dps for 2 times? (maximum on 2-3k)
- My claw dps is slightly worse than yours

Idk how is it can boost my dps in 2 times...



I'd suggest you just check PoB and see what improvements you can make. But having a beast Claw and 21/20 gems and nice jewels will definitely help.

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