How are you supposed to get DPS with spells?

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Snorkle_uk a écrit :


Crit is pretty much an int aligned mechanic, I dont know that having a caster without crit should be considered normal and crit a niche scaling for spells.


The Pizzablaster works without crit - but it uses burn proliferation - another broken mechanism. Can 1 shot T15 bosses - I need more than 100 hits with my non-poison-flurry.

I tried a tank without poison or fire this season - ok for mapping, a little low damage on rift bosses. But I sunk 8 points in crit to have at least a little damage boost, about 60-70% with potion.

In other games it's great when you have 30% crit - in POE the 100% crit builds are common.
1. IMO, Ice Nova is a bad example, because it's not meta and its base dps at level 20 is low and hard to scale. I would recommend crit freezing pulse, ice spear, ball lightning, lightning tendrils, ethereal knives. You don't need crazy gears at all. You only need a crit spell dagger with high spell crit and a spell crit shield (dual spell crit dagger if you go life).

2. Sorry, but I checked your character profile. It's good to try getting a 6L armour piece. 6th skill gem can boost up at least 20% overall damage.

3. Maintaining power charges. Set up 3L for orb of storms - increased critical strikes - power charge on critical

4. Use facebreaker once you can maintain at least 70% crit chance, for 90% crit multiplier

5. Crit multiplier and crit chance mod on jewelries.

Look up my char LogHorizonNaotsugu https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/horusray/characters. With lv21 lightning tendrils, I can do 180k with full charges and increased area of effect support (Swap with conc effect for 220k DPS). With lv20 LT, DPS is around 145k. I hope this helps.
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Dernière édition par horusray#2151, le 24 févr. 2017 à 12:02:28
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Nathaniell123 a écrit :
So, from this forum I get the illusion that to reliably kill end game bosses (without spending 10min fighting them), you need something about 100K dps(++++).. I recently made block build with 40K dps + vinktar shock and dps feels weak already to tier 10...

So how the **** are you supposed to get spell dps? I would assume that there should by build that can do it even without a loads of unique items, but right now, I just dont see how.

Lets take and example in ice nova, average dmg at lvl 20 gem = 473.

Lets say you have 600% increase dmg and 3x more (thats cca 50, 50 and 30)... And 3.3 casts per sec (Faster casting, lvl 30 spell echo and 9% castin speed from tree... so.. not so bad)

Still with this, you will get 473 * 7 * 3 =9 933 * 3.33 = 33K DPS. Only 33K....

So, how the fuck are you supposed to get dmg from spells when 600% increase and 3 more modifiers will get you only this far? No wonder everyone is using degen, converts damage or using daggers to crit.

Or is the idea of 100K dps as a nice base just wrong all together? But that just doesnt corespond with my gameplay experience, as I mentioned 40-60K feels slow and weak already on tier 8-10.


Well taking your average ice nova of 473, if your running non crit (can't be bothered with crit) on a somewhat budget

650 from flat spell damage + empower

400% off tree/weps 2600

Ice nova + Empower + Conc + Echo + Ele focus + Ice Pen + elemental overload

gives you 7761 per cast, you can easily get 4 casts which would give you 31000 dps, then you have cold pen, ele weakness, frostbite, EE which can give you an additional 120%+ more.

But all of that isn't including suitable jewels, +3 staff/bow, level 4 empower, conversions for ignite, the fact that ice nova is low damage anyway etc or gem quality / 21's




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horusray a écrit :
I would recommend crit ball lightning,


Recommend what? Skill with the lowest Damage Effectiveness in the game?
And facebrekaers gives 45% crit multi now.

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Facebreaker
Dernière édition par Aynix#7757, le 24 févr. 2017 à 12:10:56
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Aynix a écrit :
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horusray a écrit :
I would recommend crit ball lightning,


Recommend what? Skill with the lowest Damage Effectiveness in the game?
And facebrekaers gives 45% crit multi now.

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Facebreaker


LL ball lightning shaper kill


90% crit multi is a legacy varient. It exists... so does 60% crit multi version.
"In order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive" - Jordan Peterson(2018)

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Dernière édition par horusray#2151, le 24 févr. 2017 à 12:17:26
Only in standard, not in leagues.

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