[3.17] For Slayer / Champion - Ngamahu Cyclone / Consecrated Path / Tectonic Slam

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Basett a écrit :

How does the Vaal component of the new Cyclone skill gem effect this build?

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phobia90s a écrit :

So what do you guys use as an ultimate gem setup with Champion?

With the introduction of the new combustion gem, which is somewhat superior to Ele Focus, we obviously can't use both.

I'm using Cyclone - Fire Pen - WED - AoE/CE - Combustion - Damage on Full life/Faster attacks/Added fire(?)

What would be the best option out of the 3 above mentioned gems (Added Fire x Faster Attacks x Dmg on Full Life)?

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Mioushu a écrit :

Hey do u consider new vaal version of purity of fire ? 0 resists of mobs is like 75% more damage . Greetings Dareiosh

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Oupsimdead a écrit :

Hello ! i'm having troubles even clearing uberlab for the first time! Could anyone check my gear and tell me how to upgrade to be able to clear Ulab ?
Should i buy a rare 6link while waiting for my bronns 5L ? Ty in advance!

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phobia90s a écrit :

In the meantime I figured it out that Combustion in the axe and ELe Focus in the armour might be a godlike combo, I just did not get any confirmation whether the debuff is global or not. Until now. It's great news! It should work with Herald as well imo, however that way you won't get the benefit when fighting bosses, single target enemies. Not sure about Anger, it would be broken as hell in case it works.

As the ultimate gem, I swapped in Melee Physical damage, which gives as much damage as Dmg on Full Life with the benefit of not being conditional. :)


edit: The Combustion gem itself says it only supports skills that actually hit enemies. Doesn't work with HoA or Anger. Feels bad man.

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Cyclone + Elemental Damage with Attacks + Elemental Focus + Melee Physical + Added Fire + Concentrated

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phobia90s a écrit :

"You will want the following gems setup for Champion with Fortitude:


Cyclone + Elemental Damage with Attacks + Elemental Focus + Melee Physical + Added Fire + Concentrated

The above should provide the most damage."


Added Fire deals more damage than Fire Pen? That's quite strange, I thought pen>everything else.

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Klintisztvud a écrit :

For general map clearing, like Shaped red maps, and incursions still bronn's lithe, or carcass jack is better there?

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Bronn's Lithe is still the best for pure damage. It gives like 80k+ dps in PoB for me, however, only if you get the g - b - b - r - r - r off colors which can be a real pain in the ass. As OP stated in a previous post, the best gem setup damage-wise is Cyclone - Ele Focus - Conc Effect/Aoe - Ele Damage w/ Attacks - Melee Phys - Added Fire. It is really hard to achieve this on a Bronn's, especially early league when you're starving for currency. The 2nd most damage output you can reach is either Added Fire or Melee Phys replaced with Combustion. This color combination is easier to achieve, however this setup kinda negates the point of getting Bronn's, as getting as much damage as possible. With this combination, I only got 50k more effective dps in PoB, and this is the point when Carcass comes into play, as you can reach almost the same amount of damage with the most powerful gem setup (+Carcass) as with Bronn's combined with the 2nd most powerful gem setup (Combustion instead of Added Fire). Additionally, if you go Carcass you get life, resist, and more AoE. Personally, I'm gonna go with it as it seems to be the more well-rounded option out of the two.

tl;dr: If you have money go for Bronn's, but only with the g - b - b - r - r - r colour combo. Otherwise, go for Carcass as it gives damage, AoE, life, resist, and you don't have to spend currency on getting 5-off colours which can be a huge sink early league.