[3.17] For Slayer / Champion - Ngamahu Cyclone / Consecrated Path / Tectonic Slam
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Are you planning to update this build for 3.3?
I'm looking for a build to start off the league as an uber lab farmer. And I've never played Cyclone before, so bonus there. Plan is to level with Sunder until I can afford the Ngamahu weapon. How does this build do as a starter? |
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" Doesn't need updating. 3.3.0 doesn't change anything that affects this build. |
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" Will definitely be updating the guide for 3.3 when the new skill tree is revealed. At this point, just like what @Soradras stated, I don't expect any changes to the skill tree. However, I do expect a minor change in gems setup. Especially for Cyclone. Replacing Elemental Focus with Combustion (i.e. new name for Chance to Ignite). But we shall see. :) EDIT: This build is great as a league starter as you just need Ngamahu and 5L chest and you will be able to farm Uber lab. Dernière édition par kira1414#3753, le 26 mai 2018 01:33:44
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Hey, I played this in a previous league and am thinking about playing it again for 3.3
What is the reason for the Worm flask? Also, after reading the pros and cons in the ascendancy list, I feel like Slayer still sounds like the best choice, despite the Champ's prowess since 3.2. Would you agree? I mean, Cyclone grants stun immunity, Slayer grants bleed immunity while leeching and overleech. Champion might have more damage from his 100% hit chance that allows for an easy Ele Overload integration.. edit: I just plugged my Slayer into PoB and it appears that between Worthy Foe, Elemental Overload and a sixth damage link on Cyclone, the Champ doesn't only deal "slightly" more damage. Sure, Slayer could also get Ele Overload, but that has a cost whereas it's free for the Champ. Am I missing anything? Dernière édition par Solmyr77#1930, le 28 mai 2018 16:09:06
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I think the worms are for the extra 20% damage you get from headsman. Just insures you have something to kill when on single targets like bosses.
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" I see, thanks. Must've changed with the 3.2 patch for I didn't have that flask before. But this means, for a Champ (which I'm leaning towards now), it is pointless..(?) I've loaded both lvl90 EO trees into the PoB of my old Slayer and with his gear (not accuracy focused obviously), Champ is miles ahead in damage. Culling can't make up for that gap. |
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" As mentioned by @Basett, Writhing flask is to proc Headsman (Slayer ascendancy). Champion has better EO damage output but Slayer has better survivability (especially if you take up Vaal Pact). And don't forget, there is also Chieftain and Scion. Among all classes, Chieftain has the highest EO damage and cheapest to gear. Pretty much comes down to your choices. " Writhing flask will not be useful for Champion and you can replace that with an anti-freeze quick silver flask + anti-bleed 50% instant heal life flask instead. For accurate comparison between Slayer and Champion, you will definitely want to use accuracy gears on your Slayer. The chance to hit is very important for EO builds. :) |
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Hi there. This will be the first time I ever get to play the day the league starts and decided I want to use this build to do an uber lab farmer, and get it up and running ASAP.
I have one question though, I understand that the Ngamahu axe is a mandatory unique, but in the first few days (if I check price histories) it seems to be very expensive. How do you normally get yourself one by the time you get to uber lab, or can uber lab be run without it (initially)? Thanks! Not every hero holds a sword... Some just Hold the Door!
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" You can certainly run Uber lab without the axe but it will take more time to beat Izaro. At the start of the league, Ngamahu will cost around 50 to 80 chaos (Bestiary was an exception as I remember the price of the axe dropped to around 20c in just a few days), depending on the rolls. As league progresses, it will drop to single digit price range. Trading currencies (i.e. fusing, jewelers, alchemies, etc) for chaos orbs will greatly help to gather the currencies you need to acquire the axe in first 2 days. Some lucky drops that you can trade away for chaos will certainly help too. And don't forget the chaos vendor recipe. |
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TLDR: use Combustion Support now instead of Elemental Focus
For 3.3 the support gem "Chance to Ignite Support" has been changed to "Combustion Support". It now offers 19% fire pen IN ADDITION at level 20. So when comparing Elemental Focus to Combustion, we have: Elemental Focus: 49% more dmg, 10% inc dmg (quality), no DoT burning Combustion: 29% more dmg, 19% pen, 10% inc dmg (quality), 49% chance to ignite As 29% more dmg + 19% pen will always be at least as good as 48% more dmg (and better in most situations and much better against bosses) and as we are getting free DoT with 49% chance to ignite to burn bosses to ash, I think Combustion is now strictly superior to Elemental Focus. This should be true for all pure fire builds. Or am I missing something? |
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