Some layer of defenses are gated behind uniques, please add them to skill tree.

Bleed immunity,poison immunity are gated on uniques. Please add those mods to the skill tree like elemental effects are.
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Dernier bump le 19 juin 2016 à 21:02:16
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That's not actually true. Staunching and Curing suffixes for flasks grant bleed and poison immunity respectively. The Pathfinder's Master Surgeon passive also grants bleed removal on flask use.

Furthermore, you can reduce damage taken from DoTs with Leo's Suturing suffix for two-handed weapons and shields, and the Assassin's Toxic Delivery passive.

That being said... I'm surprised Bloodless doesn't grant bleed immunity. I mean, if you don't have blood, how are you bleeding? *shrug*
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That being said... I'm surprised Bloodless doesn't grant bleed immunity. I mean, if you don't have blood, how are you bleeding? *shrug*
Same logic as a skill called Lacerate not causing bleeding.

Also Slayer has a node that makes you immune to bleeding while leeching. But flasks are where most people get their immunity from. It's pretty much suicide to not have a staunching flask.
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Dernière édition par mark1030#3643, le 18 juin 2016 à 11:30:51
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That's not actually true. Staunching and Curing suffixes for flasks grant bleed and poison immunity respectively. The Pathfinder's Master Surgeon passive also grants bleed removal on flask use.

Furthermore, you can reduce damage taken from DoTs with Leo's Suturing suffix for two-handed weapons and shields, and the Assassin's Toxic Delivery passive.

That being said... I'm surprised Bloodless doesn't grant bleed immunity. I mean, if you don't have blood, how are you bleeding? *shrug*


Leo suffix is gated to pvp farming and can t be used on most weapons unles you are super lucky to get a good dps weapon that can still get those kind of mods. Not even commenting on the fact they are not for all weapons.

flask are nicw when you can actualy use them, sometime you have no time to press them you are dead. It is even worth in pvp.

YOu have immunitty to stun, quasi immunity to elemental ailments on tree. WOuld be fair for the cost of passive points you could also get immunity or reduction to poison/bleed on the general tree, not on the ascendancy one
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CrogenitorSeims a écrit :
That's not actually true. Staunching and Curing suffixes for flasks grant bleed and poison immunity respectively. The Pathfinder's Master Surgeon passive also grants bleed removal on flask use.

Furthermore, you can reduce damage taken from DoTs with Leo's Suturing suffix for two-handed weapons and shields, and the Assassin's Toxic Delivery passive.

That being said... I'm surprised Bloodless doesn't grant bleed immunity. I mean, if you don't have blood, how are you bleeding? *shrug*


Leo suffix is gated to pvp farming and can t be used on most weapons unles you are super lucky to get a good dps weapon that can still get those kind of mods. Not even commenting on the fact they are not for all weapons.

flask are nicw when you can actualy use them, sometime you have no time to press them you are dead. It is even worth in pvp.

YOu have immunitty to stun, quasi immunity to elemental ailments on tree. WOuld be fair for the cost of passive points you could also get immunity or reduction to poison/bleed on the general tree, not on the ascendancy one

It is not just immunity to stun, it has a drawback.

There are unique that give you immunity to freeze and shocked ground.
They have drawbacks, by lacking other things.
These are choices you have to make while planing certain builds, I don't think that all unique properties should be in the tree.

Uniques are unique, they just can give you special power, some you can find from passive, some you can't.Please let's not talk pvp balance, there is no such thing as a real pvp balance in PoE, and will never be.

The only real balanced PvP is the ladder.

You can always use flask, unless you get one shot/insta killed, and bleed / poison are the two things that do not do this.
Plus when you know the content well, you can see those coming.
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
Dernière édition par Fruz#6137, le 18 juin 2016 à 13:04:25
Bleed is damage over time. If you don't have time to hit a flask to remove the damage over time effect, you're doing something wrong.

Leo's mod can be put on shields too. The point is there are many ways to handle bleeding besides uniques.
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Dernière édition par mark1030#3643, le 18 juin 2016 à 13:07:26
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You can always use flask, unless you get one shot/insta killed, and bleed / poison are the two things that do not do this.
Plus when you know the content well, you can see those coming.


Look like you do not play much pvp. Crit harbringer with puncture kill you in less than 1 seconds.Poison+earthquake also.

Even with the option to avoid taking inc damage while moving with bleed, crit build will bleed you to death in less than seconds anyway. Balance is broken in pvp.

My complaint is some build will have immunity to a type of attack (stun) in the regular tree. But other build will need a uber izaro item worth XX exalt to counter a broken mechanism.

If you can get immune to stun on tree why not bleed and poison.I never said to give player free immunity wihout drawback, but the option to said immunity should be on tree like it is for stun/shock/ignite/freeze.
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I do not play PvP because PoE is essentially a PvE game.
Its balance cannot be properly adapted to PvP, like ever, it does not fit it.

If I want to play PvP game, I go play other games, simple as that.

There is no immunity to shock / freeze on the tree, chance to avoid status ailment only.
SSF is not and will never be a standard for balance, it is not for people entitled to getting more without trading.
lol PVP..

Also wow, people are even calling defenses gated now ? Lmao, what the fuck, seriously.
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lol PVP..





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I do not play PvP


then why arguing about it, just let people who enjoy pvp have their feedback, it does not concern you anyway.

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