Scold's Bridle, Damage mitigation and Paragon of Calamity

Hi. I tried today this "combo" to always have the Paragon of Calamity ascendancy buff up.
Using Flameblast and Scold's Bridle to hit 8-10 damage to myself per 0.1s, I should mitigate ~2 fire damage or so with the cloak of flame. But it doesn't work... Any idea why?

The items :


And the node :

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Paragon of Calamity
For each Element you've been hit by Damage of Recently, 40% increased
Damage of that Element
For each Element you've been hit by Damage of Recently, 8% reduced
Damage taken of that Element
(Recently refers to the past 4 seconds)

Dernier bump le 24 mars 2016 à 08:22:02
My guess is damage conversion happens after "on hit" effect checks are done

Edit: it also says deals damage not hits you with damage on the helmet
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Dernière édition par kaarelo#6451, le 23 mars 2016 à 15:18:46
So this is the confusing "on hit" thing which cannot work between scold's and Paragon of Calamity.

Better delete this node then...

I know it's probably too much to ask, but I would love a GGG confirmation about this.
Dernière édition par Rajaion#7071, le 23 mars 2016 à 15:21:58
unfortunately, kaarelo is right :P

you arent hitting yourself so it doesnt work, even reflect doesnt hit yourself despites the defense check (armor, evasion)

So the only way to make it work and get good fire/lightning mitigation (lightining coil) is... to be hit by an attack or spell from an outside source.

I dont think that traps hit the character too so they will not trigger paragon.


CWDT works with scold because it's based on the damage taken.

Anyway, scold bridle + cloak of flame SHALL work AKA cloak should convert phys to fire but paragon will not.

Paragon is greater than what you would expect, it triggers on a lot of effects, like the tornados cast by merveil , as they do multiple hits very fast, you will negate the damage with a bit of life regen and decent life pool. ( i could be wrong but i think it's mostly cold damage)
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Ok thank you for the answer too.

I'll keep it for now, but I also lose a lot of survivability (armour, ~30% chaos resistance, ~80 hp, some rarity...). Maybe I will change later. But this is another subject. Thank you for the answer :)


@GGG: Please, make it work with damage taken T_T
Ok... So... How do we summon a GGG developper/CM?

An official answer would be appropriate here.
Dernière édition par Rajaion#7071, le 23 mars 2016 à 16:11:02
Perhaps it's not working because you're not being 'hit' by fire damage. You're being hit by physical damage, which is then being converted to fire after the hit.

Test the node with Cloak of Flame and normal hits from enemies to see if it works with that. If it doesn't, then the issue is not Scold's Bridle.
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dudiobugtron a écrit :
Perhaps it's not working because you're not being 'hit' by fire damage. You're being hit by physical damage, which is then being converted to fire after the hit.

Test the node with Cloak of Flame and normal hits from enemies to see if it works with that. If it doesn't, then the issue is not Scold's Bridle.

It triggers with ennemies, but it may be a bug. Or Scold's bridle bugs with it. I don't knoooooooooow.
Are you sure you are actually taking any fire damage from the scolds reflect? Looking at your character you have a lot of armour which would reduce the base damage from scolds, Purity of Fire, Arctic Armour and lots of reduced mana cost of skills.

If the damage you are taking from scolds is too low, its entirely possible that the amount of fire damage you are taking is low enough to be rounded to 0. A quick way to check would be to cast flameblast, and see if the on hit effect on your character has the flash of red which indicates a fire hit. Or you could just take off all your reduced mana cost jewellery and then use flameblast to see if you get the buff.
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Totemizer a écrit :
Are you sure you are actually taking any fire damage from the scolds reflect? Looking at your character you have a lot of armour which would reduce the base damage from scolds, Purity of Fire, Arctic Armour and lots of reduced mana cost of skills.

If the damage you are taking from scolds is too low, its entirely possible that the amount of fire damage you are taking is low enough to be rounded to 0. A quick way to check would be to cast flameblast, and see if the on hit effect on your character has the flash of red which indicates a fire hit. Or you could just take off all your reduced mana cost jewellery and then use flameblast to see if you get the buff.

Already did this without jewel, didn't get a buff. In fact I just know my damage didn't change at all. Elementalists don't have any indication about their ascendancy buffs :/


Dernière édition par Rajaion#7071, le 23 mars 2016 à 18:38:55

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