GhazzyTV - Essence Drain & Contagion (or Bane/Soulrend) Trickster [SC/HC/Uber Elder/Shaper]

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Ghazzy a écrit :

Raider is amazing, I still think I'd prefer the Walk the Aether to remove mana issues when not killing things :) It's just a higher QoL!

Well the Trickster Ascension gives 100% increased mana regen after using a movement skill ( so whirl, ED, whirl ED - matches the build, and should satisfy the whirling cost while not killing things as well ).

Its just an option - personally I am not going to do an ED build anytime soon ( even though I love how you did it - maybe as second build in Prophecy ). Levelling with ED is such a tedious task with Inc AoE for Contagion only being available after Malachai.

Edit : I adjusted the tree - you reminded me that it should get the efficient mana nodes near Duelist - which it can since it gets 3 bonus passive points from Ascensions )

Updated Skilltree

Updated levelling tree ( ~74 )
Then after 4th Ascension it will be able to respec, get Frenzy charges and the remaining Templar nodes

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Ghazzy a écrit :

It is one of the optimal choices indeed, if linked with lvl 3+ Empower. Only problem is that you lose the possibility of getting an easy +1. Which still is worse than lioneyes vision if you have lvl 3+ Empower.

I am not sure what you mean - Tabula +1 is better or 6L Lioneye's ?

+1 on tabula to all gems gives roughly 25% more damage from the 2 higher levels Essence Drain ( 1 from +1 on tabula and 1 from plus 1 on empower, and roughly 4% more damage from +1 to the supports - so roughly 29% more damage. 6L Lioneye's without +1 on the other hand is a 7 link which results in 29% more damage ( since the free pierce ) plus it has high armour and life.

So a non corrupted 6L Lioneye's gives roughly the same damage as a corrupted +1 Tabula Rasa.

The main problem being that coloring Lioneye's will cost thousands of Chromatic orbs ( not to mention the cost for a 6L Lioneye's ^^ ) plus horrendous mana cost.

So +1 Tabula is the cheap entry chest and 6L Lioneye's the go to endgame chest IMHO - if you can deal with the mana cost ( should be doable by replacing 2 minor life nodes - which actually still should result in more life than with tabula since Lioneye's comes with 100 base life - with 2 mana nodes ) it adds so much defense.

A +1 6l Lioneye's would be the dream - another 29% more damage... lol

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AdFinitum a écrit :

6L Lioneye's without +1 on the other hand is a 7 link which results in 29% more damage ( since the free pierce ) plus it has high armour and life.

A little correction has to be made here: Lioneye's Vision supports all socketed gems with level 15 pierce, so the more multiplier applied is +24%, not +29%.

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djnat a écrit :

A little correction has to be made here: Lioneye's Vision supports all socketed gems with level 15 pierce, so the more multiplier applied is +24%, not +29%.

Oh right - damn - that means more damage ( roughly 5% ) with Tabula, more defense with Lioneye's. Taking into account the cost of a 6l Lioneye's with all the off colours thats a rough decision.

Like I've said, corrupted Tabula +1 is among the top tier items, there are other options but are vastly harder to achieve in a temp-league specially if you're going for +1 corruption on another piece than a Tabula.

Good looking build, thinking of starting prophecy with it. My only concern is the lack of tabula's/6L at beginning of league. Will ED still be effective in say a 4L or even a 5L? From looking at build i imagine slower projectiles and pierce would be left out in a 4L.

I'm basing this off current 2.3 patch notes that have not included any nerfs

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BwenR a écrit :

Good looking build, thinking of starting prophecy with it. My only concern is the lack of tabula's/6L at beginning of league. Will ED still be effective in say a 4L or even a 5L? From looking at build i imagine slower projectiles and pierce would be left out in a 4L.

I'm basing this off current 2.3 patch notes that have not included any nerfs

Tabula is easy to come by within the first 3 days, but yes it is absolutely doable to play properly with in a 4L/5L :)

If patch notes doesn't changes things, leave out Slower Proj early on :)

I got a Lvl 70 Shadow lying around in Standard with this chest:



Might test it out :3

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Helbelinc a écrit :

I got a Lvl 70 Shadow lying around in Standard with this chest:

Might test it out :3

Sounds awesome bro :D

Hey, would you recommend this as a good first build for the new league? I started recently replaying, played a bit in PSC after stopping after closed beta. I played RF Totems and LA so looking for something a bit different.

thanks