Question regarding 5L on a 6S chance rate

This is a difficult thing to search for so i will just ask it. Is there a higher chance of getting a 5 link on a item with 6 sockets? Compared to just trying to get a 5 link on a 5 socket item. Thanks for any info you can provide.

Yes.

(1-2-3-4-5 6 or 1 2-3-4-5-6) vs (1-2-3-4-5), higher probability on the first one.

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S_SienZ a écrit :

Yes.

(1-2-3-4-5 6 or 1 2-3-4-5-6) vs (1-2-3-4-5), higher probability on the first one.

That is a very interesting way of looking at it, thank you for the info.

The chance to make 5L on 6S is still very very small, dont expect to get with without less then 100 fusions.

actually it increases the chances for smaller links as well.
like
1-2 3 4 5 6
1 2-3 4 5 6 and so on... so more possibilities in general

2 possibilities for 5 link
1 possibilitie for 6 link.

i think (without doing the math) its easier to get a 5 link on 5s socket item... but u miss the chance for a 6l ...

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CylonHD a écrit :

This is a difficult thing to search for so i will just ask it. Is there a higher chance of getting a 5 link on a item with 6 sockets? Compared to just trying to get a 5 link on a 5 socket item. Thanks for any info you can provide.

This has to do with Permutations/Combinations.

Im almost positive it is a Permutation problem (repetition allowed)
What I am saying is if you use whatever orb to change the links there are 6 total possibilities that could happen.
No link
2 linked
3 linked
4 linked
5 linked
6 linked
Formula: The number of R permutations of a set with N elements. N^R

The complication is that the same # of links can pop up over and over again. And/Or a link combination you are not happy about (wanting it to be connected to a certain color link).

Hope this helps.

If I am wrong correct me

I think that with a 6 socket item, there are 2^5 = 32 different permutations of links. With 5 sockets it's 2^4 = 16, 4 sockets it's 8, 3 sockets 4 and 2 sockets 2 (link or no link). This means that the chance to get 5 linked sockets in a 6 socket armor is the same as the chance to get 5 linked sockets in a 5 socket armor (2/32 vs. 1/16).

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aajiix a écrit :

I think that with a 6 socket item, there are 2^5 = 32 different permutations of links. With 5 sockets it's 2^4 = 16, 4 sockets it's 8, 3 sockets 4 and 2 sockets 2 (link or no link). This means that the chance to get 5 linked sockets in a 6 socket armor is the same as the chance to get 5 linked sockets in a 5 socket armor (2/32 vs. 1/16).

You are right for the majority however...
I do not believe you are accounting for repetition.
If no repetition was allowed, then you are perfectly correct.
But you can use 3 fusing orbs and it gives you 3 linked sockets 3 times in a row.

Still on the right track though!

The 6 possibilities are only correct when you look at it from a single slot perspective, "states a slot can be in". It doesn't figure in the combination of shorter links like three 2 links etc.

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Unhold a écrit :

The 6 possibilities are only correct when you look at it from a single slot perspective, "states a slot can be in". It doesn't figure in the combination of shorter links like three 2 links etc.

Ooooh A new kink is thrown into the mix. I didnt think of that one.

This is why I love math, its always exciting