Abyssal Lich letdown

I feel like the Lich was more of a defensive summoner with empowered minions but the Abyssal lich abandoning the minion aspect is very bizarre. If you become the abyssal lich would that mean you get stronger minions instead of not having any? Why cant you get new super powered skellies or new minions types from the abyss but make them cost a good chunk of Spirit (Quality over Quantity). Just seems like a strange reward....Good job you became the abyssal lich and are commanding the abyss....you dont get any minions now...instead they just empower you. Why cant the empowerment have been a different ascendancy for a solo caster witch? Why did it have to be the coolest secret ascendancy? I think it needs to rework to focus more on strong minions and abyssal things that make you feel like you command the abyss. Minions already get the shaft in many games so I hope maybe they consider my idea.

Not to mention going from a minion caster to suddenly no minions and full on casting kind of breaks your mojo because now you have to either spec to it off the bat for when you get it or retool yourself for not having minions when you master the dead.

Maybe you should check the builds of other Lich players, especially in HC(SSF), where lots of people play Lich, because of his survivability and tankiness. Least Lich builds are minion builds. Lots of people are regarding minion builds suitable for casual players and dislike them, because the gameplay is too passive. So, yeah maybe you are a bit caught in your minion bubble I guess.

Check these links:

https://poe.ninja/poe2/builds/vaalhcssf?class=Lich
https://poe.ninja/poe2/builds/vaalhc?class=Lich

I wonder if Infernalist + Blackflame is a thing.

There definitely could be a better ascendency for necromancer, I don't like how they slap elemental on stuff like infenalist or lightning huntress.

They could make some cool unique necromancy minions in an Ascendency.

The thing is I have an idea for "The Burning Legion" For the flame minions that explode on death and fire related stuff thats fine but theres no Minion focused one and Abyssal lich was supposed to be it

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Lopunny_Zen#3893 a écrit :

The thing is I have an idea for "The Burning Legion" For the flame minions that explode on death and fire related stuff thats fine but theres no Minion focused one and Abyssal lich was supposed to be it

yeah there are very few points for necromancy in the ascendancies.

This is the most insane off meta abomination I've ever seen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ic-J2Zdschw

for a necromancer empowering spirit would be cool but I think people would exploit that for something other than necromancy.

I played a lich to level 96 in a hc private league (so pretty much ssf) and I'll say one of the best things that happened was "retooling" it to get rid of my minions because the "passive" gameplay was boring as shit past level 92 and I never would have got those last 5 levels if I didn't spice things up a little bit lol.

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karsey#2995 a écrit :

I played a lich to level 96 in a hc private league (so pretty much ssf) and I'll say one of the best things that happened was "retooling" it to get rid of my minions because the "passive" gameplay was boring as shit past level 92 and I never would have got those last 5 levels if I didn't spice things up a little bit lol.

you tried abyssal lich?

a few possibilities for ascendency points
"give 5% of your max ES to minions"
"give minions 30% chaos resistance"
"grants 15% spirit efficiency for minions"

Instead of adding elemental minions to the skill path
There could be a support gem to choose on-hit elemental damage for each element.

If there was an ascendency for Infernalist, for example
there could be a point for granting that on-hit fire support gem passively to all minions.

that way even the melee minions do on hit fire damage, including the archers and mage.

There wouldn't be a need for elemental minion skills anymore.

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TwitchGLHFsport#2155 a écrit :

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karsey#2995 a écrit :

I played a lich to level 96 in a hc private league (so pretty much ssf) and I'll say one of the best things that happened was "retooling" it to get rid of my minions because the "passive" gameplay was boring as shit past level 92 and I never would have got those last 5 levels if I didn't spice things up a little bit lol.

you tried abyssal lich?

Yeah but at that point you might as well play a different class. Sorc does the same shit