10.1 breakpoint Cospri CoC

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THE_HUSBAND a écrit :

It depends on how much you want to micro manage to build for 1% increase of dps. You could remove lightning from your ring and aug cold to try and hit the correct element.

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BrettLee a écrit :

This version has not been well thought out at all.

1. It is not difficult to hit 10.X APS. You have sacrificed so much damage on your gear for no reason. You just need (a) 14% AS cospri +attack speed enchant and (b) a couple attack speed rolls on your jewels. Thats it, done.

2. You can still get ailment immunity without breaking the bank. You just skip the ailment immunity roll on the boots and use an elegant form small cluster jewel. In terms of gearing, the most difficult part here is rolling a nice belt with CDR in addition to good ES mods (as opposed to the regular belt which just needs an ES% and ES roll to start off with).

Overall, its probably not worth the effort. Its cheaper and easier to gear for Kami's or Ammeron's version of the build which has ailment immunity and more than enough DPS for any content - and using 3 skill points to socket and reach a small cluster node is pretty costly when we have 48% multi + 8% ES jewels available to us. It definitely would not be worth departing from Kami/Ammeron's build to get 10.X APS without ailment immunity.

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VashSan a écrit :

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BrettLee a écrit :

This version has not been well thought out at all.

1. It is not difficult to hit 10.X APS. You have sacrificed so much damage on your gear for no reason. You just need (a) 14% AS cospri +attack speed enchant and (b) a couple attack speed rolls on your jewels. Thats it, done.

2. You can still get ailment immunity without breaking the bank. You just skip the ailment immunity roll on the boots and use an elegant form small cluster jewel. In terms of gearing, the most difficult part here is rolling a nice belt with CDR in addition to good ES mods (as opposed to the regular belt which just needs an ES% and ES roll to start off with).

Overall, its probably not worth the effort. Its cheaper and easier to gear for Kami's or Ammeron's version of the build which has ailment immunity and more than enough DPS for any content - and using 3 skill points to socket and reach a small cluster node is pretty costly when we have 48% multi + 8% ES jewels available to us. It definitely would not be worth departing from Kami/Ammeron's build to get 10.X APS without ailment immunity.

1. It's funny that I don't actually use non-unique jewels, so I can't really "have IAS on jewels".

1.1 I also don't know how you got 10.X APS with "just 14% IAS Cospri with IAS enchant and a couple atk speed roll on jewels".

1.1.1 Tested: Enchanted Cospri, +Silver flask of Acceletarion(12%), +Elusive, +Tailwind and got 8.98 APS.

1.1.2 Even with my 18% IAS gloves it goes to 9.93, it's close but not quite 10.X APS you claim.

2. I don't think I can fit cluster jewels.

3. I saw Kami's version, it's awesome. Used his guide for many ideas. But also decided to create something different, If I wanted to talk about their builds, I would have posted on the respective threads.

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BrettLee a écrit :

1. I know that you don't use non-unique jewels. I am saying that this is the most efficient means of reaching the next AS cap.

1.1 Which part are you struggling with?

https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds/char/deeex/her_best
14% AS cospri with AS enchant
1 x jewel with triple AS + crit multi
spiritual command
=10 APS

1.1.1 See above.

1.1.2 Your gloves are not good. The temple mod gives 48% cold res and 50% damage with hits against chilled enemies is double the DPS of the redeemer cold damage mod. This also frees up a slot for an additional accuracy roll (t1 accuracy on gloves + helmet is important).

2. Why not? Cluster jewels are incredibly strong for scaling both damage, aoe, and also offer an opportunity to patch up any missing resistance / attributes. You ended up going for nodes like blast radius, doom cast, and prodigal perfection (not worth the skill points).

3. The point is that you have made a strictly inferior build. Yes, you can depart from Kami's guide and make your own CoC Nova version that you can turn into a guide. However, as outlined in my initial comment is that you have gone about it in the wrong way.

You have completely gutted the build from (a) damage - no circle of fear, why are we not using militant faith w/inner conviction, +1 power charges/-9% cold res helmet, damage mod + unnerve gloves, cluster jewels for scaling aoe and damage and (b) bulk..should we just ignore that you aren't anywhere near max block at 50% and 40% even with glancing blows and as mentioned elsewhere, you lose ailment immunity too.

So how do you get to 10 APS without completely gutting damage and bulk from the build? Start with Kami or Ammerron's guide.

1. Cospri 14% AS + AS enchant

2. Triple AS jewel + crit multi

3. Allocate spiritual command using thread of hope (same one that allocates glancing blows).

That's the AS done. Ailment immunity? As I said, you just need a small cluster jewel with elegant form and you are done.

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VashSan a écrit :

1. Was getting about 9.09 APS, untill I figured that build uses circle of fear with onslaught on hit, just a 27ex+ ring, not happening. But I guess your suggestion would be a possibility with a silver flask.

Not a big deal, but at least on PoB that build goes over the 10.10 breakpoint reaching 10.37

1.1.2 Temple gloves are awesome, I took some time looking for them before making my own, but for 40ex+ they were a NOPE at the time, don't really know if the price changed.

2. Had Blast Radius and Arcane Expanse for some time to cover AOE and maybe have a little bit more clear speed, they aren't core or even needed at all. Prodigal Perfection and Doom Cast are 6 points for 26% spell dmg and 45% crit multi. You are probably right on this one, I think it should be possible and good to save 9 points for medium+small clusters.

3. I made a mistake making a pure dex amulet. If I had str+dex I would be able to swap the energy from within with a militant faith and that would be an awesome offensive upgrade, 18% more dmg for 400ES.
Another problem was the helm, I just had a shaper base with the Hatred reservation enchant, I agree that -9% cold and power charge is the best options, but again, couldn't afford at the time.
Just by getting a good corruption on my frozen trail I can get rid of a flat suffix and use Rumi's, going to 75/60 block cap for atk, and really close for spells (actually just did that); 75/70 with bench craft, would be tradding ES for block, cool option.

Next time I'll approach the build having jewels and cluster jewels in mind, they are a little bit harder to plan arround but a good option.

But one thing I don't really want is to change a lot, or go for really expensive upgrades.