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Haven't played melee in forever so maybe I'm bad at the game but I have 4.2k hp, max res, etc. and just feel so squishy doing even t5 maps.
The attack speed is SOOOO slow on the slam that it makes me so vulnerable. Once it slams it is awesome, but I've died so many times in the swing animation
melee phys support and pulv support both have LESS attack speed multipliers, until you have solid +attack speed and rite of ruin trippling it, id reccomend using shockwave/fortify/literally any other support which is slightly less raw dmg but no attack speed penalty
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Posté parfrawrst#6156le 16 déc. 2023 à 19:39:19
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ryzarector a écrit :
Haven't played melee in forever so maybe I'm bad at the game but I have 4.2k hp, max res, etc. and just feel so squishy doing even t5 maps.
The attack speed is SOOOO slow on the slam that it makes me so vulnerable. Once it slams it is awesome, but I've died so many times in the swing animation
melee phys support and pulv support both have LESS attack speed multipliers, until you have solid +attack speed and rite of ruin trippling it, id reccomend using shockwave/fortify/literally any other support which is slightly less raw dmg but no attack speed penalty
alright ill try this out, just lowered attack time from 1.17 to .67
edit: problem solved, just needed AS
Dernière édition par ryzarector#6157, le 16 déc. 2023 à 19:50:19
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Posté parryzarector#6157le 16 déc. 2023 à 19:43:09
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Rylo151 a écrit :
Is there any reason why I shouldnt play leap slam of groundbreaking following this POB? Ive always wanted to do a leap slam build.
do it big!
Ok it is actually very big. Smoothest acts ive ever done and aoe and damage is quite large
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Posté parRylo151#3807le 16 déc. 2023 à 20:15:10
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Rylo151 a écrit :
Is there any reason why I shouldnt play leap slam of groundbreaking following this POB? Ive always wanted to do a leap slam build.
do it big!
Ok it is actually very big. Smoothest acts ive ever done and aoe and damage is quite large
hell ya! show it off!
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Posté parfrawrst#6156le 16 déc. 2023 à 20:23:15
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ryzarector a écrit :
Haven't played melee in forever so maybe I'm bad at the game but I have 4.2k hp, max res, etc. and just feel so squishy doing even t5 maps.
The attack speed is SOOOO slow on the slam that it makes me so vulnerable. Once it slams it is awesome, but I've died so many times in the swing animation
melee phys support and pulv support both have LESS attack speed multipliers, until you have solid +attack speed and rite of ruin trippling it, id reccomend using shockwave/fortify/literally any other support which is slightly less raw dmg but no attack speed penalty
alright ill try this out, just lowered attack time from 1.17 to .67
edit: problem solved, just needed AS
attack speed is our true lord and savior
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Posté parfrawrst#6156le 16 déc. 2023 à 20:23:30
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not going so great for me honestly, I don´t know why my damage is lacking so much, it never felt great starting maps and i have problems killing t9/t10 bosses and buffed rares
attacks only feel strong when all buffs are active and always getting 3 warcries, ancestral warchief and rage going doesn´t leave enough time for attackes
everyone here is talking about missing attack speed or tankiness but for me it seems like plain damage is missing...
am i doing sth wrong?
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Posté parcarebesen#1066le 17 déc. 2023 à 10:05:30
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not going so great for me honestly, I don´t know why my damage is lacking so much, it never felt great starting maps and i have problems killing t9/t10 bosses and buffed rares
attacks only feel strong when all buffs are active and always getting 3 warcries, ancestral warchief and rage going doesn´t leave enough time for attackes
everyone here is talking about missing attack speed or tankiness but for me it seems like plain damage is missing...
am i doing sth wrong?
by not putting your main skill in tidebreaker, you are missing out on its innate link (endurance charge on stun) which in a 5 link tidebreaker makes it a psuedo 6 link
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Posté parfrawrst#6156le 17 déc. 2023 à 18:23:19
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not going so great for me honestly, I don´t know why my damage is lacking so much, it never felt great starting maps and i have problems killing t9/t10 bosses and buffed rares
attacks only feel strong when all buffs are active and always getting 3 warcries, ancestral warchief and rage going doesn´t leave enough time for attackes
everyone here is talking about missing attack speed or tankiness but for me it seems like plain damage is missing...
am i doing sth wrong?
by not putting your main skill in tidebreaker, you are missing out on its innate link (endurance charge on stun) which in a 5 link tidebreaker makes it a psuedo 6 link
ty but i doubt this is bringing me from 20k to 100k+... i was using it before i got my 5l armor and dmg was lower
i dont see how im missing so much damage when this build is supposed to be about single target damage in the first place. fully buffed i do 50k for 3 hits so i have to maintain warcry buffs or my damage drops massively while i see you not even bothering with keeping up warcries in the posted videos. it looks like your base attack is so much better and even fully buffed I feel weak, i stopped playing today after hitting a wall on t10 maps...
Dernière édition par carebesen#1066, le 17 déc. 2023 à 18:55:55
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Posté parcarebesen#1066le 17 déc. 2023 à 18:54:57
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carebesen a écrit :
not going so great for me honestly, I don´t know why my damage is lacking so much, it never felt great starting maps and i have problems killing t9/t10 bosses and buffed rares
attacks only feel strong when all buffs are active and always getting 3 warcries, ancestral warchief and rage going doesn´t leave enough time for attackes
everyone here is talking about missing attack speed or tankiness but for me it seems like plain damage is missing...
am i doing sth wrong?
by not putting your main skill in tidebreaker, you are missing out on its innate link (endurance charge on stun) which in a 5 link tidebreaker makes it a psuedo 6 link
ty but i doubt this is bringing me from 20k to 100k+... i was using it before i got my 5l armor and dmg was lower
i dont see how im missing so much damage when this build is supposed to be about single target damage in the first place. fully buffed i do 50k for 3 hits so i have to maintain warcry buffs or my damage drops massively while i see you not even bothering with keeping up warcries in the posted videos. it looks like your base attack is so much better and even fully buffed I feel weak, i stopped playing today after hitting a wall on t10 maps...
literally putting ground slam in your 4 link mace makes it hit for 168k
i replied to someone early, since you do not have rite of ruin or good attack speed jewels/items, your slams feel very slow
dont use pulverize or melee phys as they have LESS attack speed multipliers, use fortify, shockwave, ruthless/literally any other support. even a green faster attacks will make it FEEL alot better
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Posté parfrawrst#6156le 17 déc. 2023 à 20:40:05
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Thank you this was very helpful, one question about the vaal ground slam? how does that work using it as the main skill? looking up the info about vaal skills and they need souls to use, so how are you able to use 100% of the time?
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jms5419 a écrit :
I am brand new to POE and stumbled across this guide and started using it for my first character. So far I think i am following ok (Act 4 level 45), however, can you give me a very high level overview of how the actual warcry gameplay works? Put another way - what is the 'default' play style ?
there are 2 main options
1. use call to arms + 1 warcry, put it on left click and let it auto use as you move
this is fine for almost all content in the game
2. piano warcry, using ways to extend warcrys to keep warbringer proccing on all of our exerted hits. you have to keep pressing warcries and maintaining rage, all the while dpsing and dodging etc. a much more active and heavy playstyle
the "rotation" for piano would be, 1st warcry, slam slam slam, 2nd warcry, slam slam slam, 3rd warcry, slam slam slam, 1st warcry repeating
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Posté parjms5419#4445le 17 déc. 2023 à 21:17:12
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