Raytracing? RTX/2080/deep learning support?!?

This is the question we all have. It's preorder time. I can get 1080ti for $529US on Amazon... or supposedly the 2080 will be = 1080x2 with that deep learning biz enabled.

Question is: Since this is my main game and I don't play AAA's, Are you (GGG talking to you) planning on supporting this deep learning stuff and we all get 20xx or are you not this year and we all spring for the 1080ti's?

Thank you.

also, I saw the new lightning vid... but are you supporting RAYTRACING?

For now I have a 1080ti and a 3840x1440 120hz incoming because I want to delve, baby!

Edit: also ordered monoprice 1060 headset for the sounds

you need to read up or watch up on a bunch of stuff about those cards.
everything i've seen comes to the conclusion to just not buy them. nvidia was pretty deceiving about their claims and marketing and....yeah. SKIP!

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xMustard a écrit :

you need to read up or watch up on a bunch of stuff about those cards.
everything i've seen comes to the conclusion to just not buy them. nvidia was pretty deceiving about their claims and marketing and....yeah. SKIP!

within last 12 hours was performance (albeit nvidia's) saying 2080=150% 1080 in rasterized (lord've mercy) gaming and with deep learning AI enabled, 2080=200% 1080 (1080x2=2080 according to Nvidia maffs) . So that's where I'm at.

Nevermind the questions about if these deep learning AI's will work in conjunction across the planet and increase rendering performance exponentially until the FPS reads 99999999 or if the deep learning will literally send a self-driving uber into the local power line to prevent you from killing the AI boss that is programmed to not die. Gosh. What a time to be a gamer.

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scabchewer a écrit :

This is the question we all have. It's preorder time. I can get 1080ti for $529US on Amazon... or supposedly the 2080 will be = 1080x2 with that deep learning biz enabled.

Question is: Since this is my main game and I don't play AAA's, Are you (GGG talking to you) planning on supporting this deep learning stuff and we all get 20xx or are you not this year and we all spring for the 1080ti's?

Thank you.

also, I saw the new lightning vid... but are you supporting RAYTRACING?

For now I have a 1080ti and a 3840x1440 120hz incoming because I want to delve, baby!

Edit: also ordered monoprice 1060 headset for the sounds

Can you maintain >100 fps at all times with that resolution in end game maps with a fast clearing build?

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Nephalim a écrit :

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scabchewer a écrit :

This is the question we all have. It's preorder time. I can get 1080ti for $529US on Amazon... or supposedly the 2080 will be = 1080x2 with that deep learning biz enabled.

Question is: Since this is my main game and I don't play AAA's, Are you (GGG talking to you) planning on supporting this deep learning stuff and we all get 20xx or are you not this year and we all spring for the 1080ti's?

Thank you.

also, I saw the new lightning vid... but are you supporting RAYTRACING?

For now I have a 1080ti and a 3840x1440 120hz incoming because I want to delve, baby!

Edit: also ordered monoprice 1060 headset for the sounds

Can you maintain >100 fps at all times with that resolution in end game maps with a fast clearing build?

Hell if I know.

1080ti and 21:9 1440 and figure that will deliver or return it and go 2080 with 21:9 1600 but only available at 75hz so...2080 and 21x9 1440 capped? Or just stick with current 27" 1440 and rx580 and get cryptocurrencies until we can all have a card/monitor combo delivering 38"4k 144 for $1000.

Will GGG will be including this raytracing/AI support that these new cards are capable of delivering? That's the question.

The engine is pretty old I would suprised if it was high on their priority list. However, if you've seen the latest updates to lighting, it is very impressive what theyve done without any RTX tech or need for current gen hardware.

The consensus so far is that the ray tracing of the 11 series cards are not worth the money as literally only a handful of games actually utitlize the tech and no benchmarks have been released so far comparing the 11 series with the 10 series cards.

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scabchewer a écrit :

This is the question we all have. It's preorder time. I can get 1080ti for $529US on Amazon... or supposedly the 2080 will be = 1080x2 with that deep learning biz enabled.

Question is: Since this is my main game and I don't play AAA's, Are you (GGG talking to you) planning on supporting this deep learning stuff and we all get 20xx or are you not this year and we all spring for the 1080ti's?

Thank you.

also, I saw the new lightning vid... but are you supporting RAYTRACING?

For now I have a 1080ti and a 3840x1440 120hz incoming because I want to delve, baby!

Edit: also ordered monoprice 1060 headset for the sounds

I doubt that RTX (include deep learning you referring to) is 2x1080 - and if so, than only in perfect condition imo. I also suggest, that it will take at least one-two generations of cards till raytracing will be "standard".

In some reviews developers from Metro or Tomb Rider said, they new about that technology for few months and implementation was pretty fast and without problems.

Answer: Imo GGG will not implement such a technology this year.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/13261/hands-on-with-the-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-realtime-raytracing

About Tomb Rider stuff: https://www.dsogaming.com/news/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080ti-unable-to-run-shadow-of-the-tomb-raider-with-60fps-at-1080p-with-rtx-on/

and a bit more about Lara game: https://www.techradar.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-ti


Games with raytracing:

Assetto Corsa Competizione from Kunos Simulazioni/505 Games
Atomic Heart from Mundfish
Battlefield V from EA/DICE
Control from Remedy Entertainment/505 Games
Enlisted from Gaijin Entertainment/Darkflow Software
Justice from NetEase
JX3 from Kingsoft
MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries from Piranha Games
Metro Exodus from 4A Games
ProjectDH from Nexon’s devCAT Studio
Shadow of the Tomb Raider from Square Enix/Eidos-Montréal/Crystal Dynamics/Nixxes


Following games should be using only part on RTX card repsectively Tensor Cores for handling picture using – DLSS (Deep Learning Super-Sampling. For now announced games that are going to use that are:

Ark: Survival Evolved from Studio Wildcard
Atomic Heart from Mundfish
Dauntless from Phoenix Labs
Final Fantasy XV from Square Enix
Fractured Lands from Unbroken Studios
Hitman 2 from IO Interactive/Warner Bros.
Islands of Nyne from Define Human Studios
Justice from NetEase
JX3 from Kingsoft
Mechwarrior 5: Mercenaries from Piranha Games
PlayerUnknown’s Battlegrounds from PUBG Corp.
Remnant: From the Ashes from Arc Games
Serious Sam 4: Planet Badass from Croteam/Devolver Digital
Shadow of the Tomb Raider from Square Enix/Eidos-Montréal/Crystal Dynamics/Nixxes
The Forge Arena from Freezing Raccoon Studios
We Happy Few from Compulsion Games / Gearbox



ps: can not wait for new Tomb Rider .. :)

2x1080 is no way.

tomb raider with ray tracing was tested at 30-50 fps in 1080p. an exert from that article

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For the majority of the short video, Shadow of the Tomb Raider ran with 40fps. Not silky smooth, right? The NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080Ti was able to push more than 60fps when Lara was facing a wall but I’m pretty sure that PC gamers will want to admire the environments instead of looking at the sky or the ground so that they can run the game smoothly. When solving puzzles and exploring the environments, the framerate was between 30fps and 45fps.

im really unsure why nvidia is diving so deep into this RTX thing. it really seems like a lose lose. i guess the gamble was that they get games and developers hyped for the new technology that they have a pigeon hold on so that they can corner the market over AMDs new 7nm hype coming soon.
kind like...oh i dunno...what nvidia always tries to do.

RTX won't take off, not in its first iteration where the performance is so piss poor. but this just means a massive loss of money for nvidia because they'll need to release another line of cards for the 7nm technology themselves to compete with AMD, since there is no way RTX will take off like this, and the price point of the 20xx line of cards doesn't keep them competitive as normal cards without the actual RTX tech.

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xMustard a écrit :

2x1080 is no way.

tomb raider with ray tracing was tested at 30-50 fps in 1080p. an exert from that article

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For the majority of the short video, Shadow of the Tomb Raider ran with 40fps. Not silky smooth, right? The NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080Ti was able to push more than 60fps when Lara was facing a wall but I’m pretty sure that PC gamers will want to admire the environments instead of looking at the sky or the ground so that they can run the game smoothly. When solving puzzles and exploring the environments, the framerate was between 30fps and 45fps.

im really unsure why nvidia is diving so deep into this RTX thing. it really seems like a lose lose. i guess the gamble was that they get games and developers hyped for the new technology that they have a pigeon hold on so that they can corner the market over AMDs new 7nm hype coming soon.
kind like...oh i dunno...what nvidia always tries to do.

RTX won't take off, not in its first iteration where the performance is so piss poor. but this just means a massive loss of money for nvidia because they'll need to release another line of cards for the 7nm technology themselves to compete with AMD, since there is no way RTX will take off like this, and the price point of the 20xx line of cards doesn't keep them competitive as normal cards without the actual RTX tech.

What is source?

In one of link I sent is stated:
"Although we haven’t had the chance to benchmark the card thoroughly, we did get to play multiple PC games at 4K and in excess of 60 frames per second (fps) with the RTX 2080 Ti at Nvidia’s GeForce Gaming Celebration event at Gamescom 2018. ... In terms of frame rate, Shadow of the Tomb Raider ran at a mostly consistent 50-57 fps, which is impressive giving the game is running on a single GPU and in such an early state – on top of all the new ray tracing techniques."

Regards what you wrote about "piss poor" - imo RTX cards works pretty well and from what I have seen it works great. AMD has no much to offer and they are pricing their cards a bit lower than NVidia to look like alternative, but mainly to get max profit. There is no competition between them. NVidia will earn another tone of money on RTX no doubt.

I sincerely doubt any of them are anywhere near a 50% increase over previous cards.