Will DW -Melee Crit always be more dps than 2h crit?

Case in point 2x Anh's might vs starforge

Anh's might with pacifism jewel = 2 very high crit uniques which are 1-3 chaos at max.
Starforge - over priced 2h - with shock and low base crit.

Dw Melee Crit Nodes on Tree are far greater than 2h damage / crit nodes.

When going Pure phys melee crit

1. DW builds just seem to have more damge and life
2. 2h swords are more at the bottom of the tree and glass cannon
3. at the end 2h damage is always lesser than dw due to passives and nodes.


Is there some misunderstanding on my part? Or is there something i am not considering. The skills i am looking at this are from Cleave point of view.

even with penalty of 60* of combined weapon damage ( its not really 60% due to passive bonus) DW still does more damage than 2h.

If you want to go 2H-Crit try Exquisite Blade as base.
Two-Handed weapons are not meant for crit (Low base crit, low attack speed) but you can still do it if you slap some base crit on there (Scion, Assassin, Watcher's Eye, Inc Crit gem, Elder Chest), in order to profit from the high base dps.

Sword crit nodes are fine, you don't need Twin Terrors.

Also, Starforge is not over priced, it's great.

Cleave is a DW specific skill, it's bad for comparison.

Yes especially with the new shaper mods you can get like 130% more damage as elemental and chaos for your offhander. That shit is so broke have no idea how it made it in the game when they spoke of powercreep in same patch.

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If you want to go 2H-Crit try Exquisite Blade as base.
Two-Handed weapons are not meant for crit (Low base crit, low attack speed) but you can still do it if you slap some base crit on there (Scion, Assassin, Watcher's Eye, Inc Crit gem, Elder Chest), in order to profit from the high base dps.

Sword crit nodes are fine, you don't need Twin Terrors.

Also, Starforge is not over priced, it's great.

Cleave is a DW specific skill, it's bad for comparison.

As i thought , as i couldn't find any workable build with 2h Crit.

when you are reaching that far up the shadow tree you are spreading yourself pretty thin - marauder to shadow.
Yeah the only alternative to Twin Terrors is up there.
Inc crit gem - Will have to plug that in and check the numbers.

Now i get why there arent many crit builds with starforge.

also crits because acuity FTW!!!.

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Aim_Deep a écrit :

Yes especially with the new shaper mods you can get like 130% more damage as elemental and chaos for your offhander. That shit is so broke have no idea how it made it in the game when they spoke of powercreep in same patch.

7l 1h + high crit+offhand shaper... Poor 6l 2h melee cry in corner.. and then we have bow and shaper/helder quiver... Now 2h melee just puke in disgust

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Zinja a écrit :

As i thought , as i couldn't find any workable build with 2h Crit.

when you are reaching that far up the shadow tree you are spreading yourself pretty thin - marauder to shadow.
Yeah the only alternative to Twin Terrors is up there.
Inc crit gem - Will have to plug that in and check the numbers.

Now i get why there arent many crit builds with starforge.

also crits because acuity FTW!!!.

You would not go towards Maurauder side of the passive tree when playing Assassin. For Scion it's no problem.

You don't need an alternative to Twin Terrors, I wouldn't even use it in some DW builds if I can get good crit on gear.

DW is easier and cheaper to build, since higher attack speed scales added flat damage better and the shaped off-hands are retarded.
That said, 2-H crit is viable if you know what you are doing and got sufficient funds.

https://pastebin.com/yVU4WaeW

that's where 5 minutes of path of building got me so far.

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DiscoveryChannel a écrit :

https://pastebin.com/yVU4WaeW

that's where 5 minutes of path of building got me so far.

Interesting. Definitely did not notice those nodes along the scion.

Trade off's are different ascendancy with different starts.

Would something similar be possible with another class start?
Say a Duelist?

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Zinja a écrit :

Would something similar be possible with another class start?
Say a Duelist?

Find it out ;)

That's the beautiful thing about PoE. You can make almost everything work if you try hard enough.

Tip: If you are Duelist, use an elder chest with 100+ life and 1,5% crit to attacks.

Dual wielding will always out dps 2hander at the moment if money is no issue, the reason mainly being the innate ias bonus of DW and also the tremendously powerful shaper stat sticks.